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Give Me Liberty .....

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A comment posted to my Patch blog at 5:41pm, Sunday, 1/5/12 by Pat Craig. 

http://elmhurst.patch.com//blog_posts/warning-statewide-firearm-ban-moves-forward-in-il#comment_5964718

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"At a moment of historical urgency very similar to what we currently face, a delegation of Patriots met in St. John’s Church in Richmond, Virginia, on March 23, 1775, less than a month before Gage sent out his troops that fateful April morning.

One of the speakers that day was a man whose rousing oration is regarded as one of the greatest speeches in American history, said near the beginning of his talk:
his is no time for ceremony. The question before the House is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country. Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offence, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country, and of an act of disloyalty toward the majesty of heaven, which I revere above all earthly kings.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided; and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past.
We have trod this path before. We know where it leads, having watched it both overseas and at home.

Today, federal agents and agencies arm themselves with weapons of war and hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition not to combat an outside threat, but to oppress this nation’s citizens, as the would-be elites, long lost to the common man and imagining themselves superior, set about removing “Liberty’s teeth;” the last and greatest obstacle to imposing their well-intentioned tyranny where everyone is entitled to a “fair share” of what they are willing to let us have.

Pray for peace, protest with passion, and prepare yourself for war.

The fine gentleman from Virginia cited above had made the same grim determination before arriving in Richmond.
They tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance, by lying supinely on our backs, and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. Three millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations; and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us.

The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. Besides, sir, we have no election. If we were base enough to desire it, it is now too late to retire from the contest. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the plains of Boston! The war is inevitable and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come.

It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

When shall we be stronger indeed, if we give up the implements of freedom without contest? There can be no peace when tyrants order Americans to bow down and surrender.

They, and they alone must withdraw… or else the choice is made.

Tread carefully.

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SonofJohn January 17, 2013 at 09:11 PM
Spot on. People like RB and Butch have an agenda, they don't care about our Republic, they know exactually what they are.
SonofJohn January 17, 2013 at 09:13 PM
Your probably wasting your time Tired, RB has proven to be illiterate when it comes to the history of this nation, or he/she has an agenda, gun confiscation. Common sense does not apply to Rb and Butch.
SonofJohn January 17, 2013 at 09:26 PM
And yet it is the Jewish influence in this country that are pushing gun control, you would think the Jews in this country would wise up. I have poste the link in a previous post you did read the information didn't you? I think you and other of your ilk have problems, and the common thread is rage In my experience anti–gun people harbor more rage than others, or they’re less able to cope with it appropriately, you and others have shown that in your posts. They can’t handle their own feelings of rage, they are forced to use defense mechanisms in an unhealthy manner. Because they wrongly perceive others as seeking to harm them, they advocate the disarmament of ordinary people who have no desire to harm anyone. So why do you and anti–gun people have so much rage and why are they unable to deal with it in appropriate ways? Consider for a moment that the largest and most hysterical anti–gun groups include disproportionately large numbers of women, African–Americans and Jews. And virtually all of the organizations that claim to speak for these "oppressed people" are stridently anti–gun. Not coincidentally, among Jews, Blacks and women there are many "professional victims" who have little sense of identity outside of their victimhood. Are you a victim? Angry at what? Your posts say you are.
McCloud January 17, 2013 at 09:45 PM
Is there something wrong with people who believe in the 2nd Amendment and form a group to preserve and voice their opinions? Lord knows there are plenty of other groups supporting green money laundering services, union thugs and gay rights, but those are probably not funded by the bad rich people, right?
RB January 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM
SOJ- I've been proven to be illiterate about the history Of this nation? Please explain, this should be good. Don't forget the part of history about how amendments are interpreted, added or repealed as civilization evolves. BS- your points, while not importantto the argument, are at least your thoughts and not from ammoland, fox or some fringe publication like SOJ reads. Repeat- the Government is not coming for your guns! The Supreme Court has said you have a right to defend your home and to hunt. That does give you the right to have a nuclear bomb, or an assault weapon with a huge clip if the Government says you can't. No more than the Government saying you can't go 100 miles an hour, it may be a law. Hopefully, not having assault weapons will become law. I can't imagine why you would have problems with better and more background checks? Does increasing enforcement of prosecuting people who lie on applications bother you too? How about requirements that a stolen gun be reported? What's wrong with that?
BUTCH January 17, 2013 at 10:32 PM
yep I am a human who was victimized by a doctor when I was born and he cut the foreskin because it has to do with some GOLDEN CALF ritual!
Just Sayin January 17, 2013 at 10:41 PM
Patch...Is it not time to pull the plug on this board? Haven't these lunatics had enough time already to spew forth their individual and peculiar b.s. ? I say onward to possibly and hopefully a more enlightened / enlightening topic. Oh...wait...this is The Patch...little to no hope of that! Just close this thing down already. It will give these nut jobs time and space to exercise their other muscles. You are exhausting what little grey matter they have.
Just Sayin January 17, 2013 at 10:45 PM
***Yawn***
BUTCH January 17, 2013 at 10:47 PM
McSwine, Senata was no union thug factory, when we talk about rich and bad is the ROUNDTABLE that is made up of Ins and Pharma CEO'S that ave 14 Million a yr are not trying to increase obscene profits by upping the retirement to 70 the fewer than get their contribution the more the Jackoffs like Welch make, yers and the Zionists concern for the 2nd Amen is a AMMOLAND version not based on the debate of the time concerning slavery and the Militia right to hunt and disarm slaves.
BUTCH January 17, 2013 at 10:58 PM
@ son of AMMOLAND-the Jews in CONGRESS pushing for reasonable controls on Bushwhackers and WMA WEAP MASS ANNIHILATION are not part of the insane Terrorists the Irgun-Hagganagh and Stern gang that RABBI'S AMMO and KAHANE ancestors belonged to who blew up the King DAVID hotel with the British High Commissioner meeting the moderate Jews and Arabs inside that's rage old man!
BUTCH January 17, 2013 at 11:04 PM
WHY DO U BOTHER? are you one of Hannity's disenchanted listeners and viewers?
Tired of the B.S. January 17, 2013 at 11:07 PM
Spoken like a true liberal. I am smarter than you so why don't you just do it my way and become "enlightened". Anyone that does not agree with my views is a "nut job" or a "lunatic" that spews "b.s.". If I can't have it my way, just close it down or in other words, BAN IT.
RB January 17, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Edward: "The joke is the idiots who try and solve problems with laws." That's it. The smorgasbord of craziness is full...
BUTCH January 17, 2013 at 11:12 PM
well said TIRED, are u sure- just say- is a LEFTY sounds too ignorant and bored to be one?
Tired of the B.S. January 17, 2013 at 11:26 PM
RB, I guess my points are not important to this argument, as you say, because they prove the point that the government has and will continue to take away your rights. If you don't think that this is important, well, there is no helping you. Here are a couple of things that the government can now do that violate your and my rights: #1. Under the “library provision” of the USA PATRIOT Act, the government can demand that custodians of records – including librarians, schools, social work institutions, and internet service providers (who have access to a mind-boggling array of information about us) turn over those records without having to explain to a court why they want those records, or whether the person who is the subject of the records has done anything suspicious. #2. Under the National Security Letter the FBI and other agencies can demand some records from telecommunications and financial services providers without any court order at all. This "letter" also contains a gag order preventing the recipient of the letter from disclosing that the letter was ever issued. From 2003 to 2006 the Federal Bureau of Investigation issued 192,499 national security letter requests. #3. Amendments to the Patriot Act let the government spy on Americans using a Cold War era statute designed for tracking the covert activities of Soviet agents. But you are right, nothing to important worry about.
Chronicles of Bob January 17, 2013 at 11:42 PM
Aloha mr hand
RB January 17, 2013 at 11:59 PM
BS: the 16 oz soda and 7 vs 10 clip. You said nothing about the Patriot Act. I hate the Patriot Act. It's no reason for me to go buy a machine gun and hoard food, but thats just me.
Just Sayin January 18, 2013 at 02:18 AM
Tired of B. S. is Richard Schulte.
Just Sayin January 18, 2013 at 02:19 AM
LOL...looks who's talking...
SonofJohn January 18, 2013 at 03:23 AM
Spoken like a true socialist. Do as I say not as I do. Obama has given us many examples.
BUTCH January 18, 2013 at 03:28 AM
who is Rich Sch?
BUTCH January 18, 2013 at 04:13 AM
@son of ammo; The rage toward the POTUS is understandable and u either are in need of new scripts or have not been included in the profit deluge! The BILLION DOLLAR never ending campaign against the moderate GOP -AKA Socialist to u and other disinfo and misinfo dummies and shills alike has paid more than triple the amount spent. Corp after tax profits have grown 171 % more than any POTUS since WWII. They are twice as high as they were in 666 (Ron Wilson Reagan) admin peak years of morning in America, and 50% greater since the Internet boom of Clinton. Under the twin skull and bones guys from Yale were flat and largely declined (except for Helliburton and related DEF contractors), despite the BUSH WELFARE QUEEN SUBSIDIZES and CUTS. These yahoos from TEXASS are as dumb as rocks and Neo Jews for wanting their golden cash cow or golden calf to BE impeached it puts a new spin on why the TEX ASS MORONS are the leading ammo producing states, they will need a lot of every caliber ammo and body guards if OBAMA is driven from office.
SonofJohn January 18, 2013 at 04:45 AM
Some truth even you can understand, agree or disagree? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EKlKGB3YwjE
SonofJohn January 18, 2013 at 05:08 AM
Victims of tyranny -- from the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, to the victims of Joseph Stalin and Idi Amin -- have all wished they were armed. We should not join their ranks of victimhood. Why would Americans give up the right to have the best possible defense weapon we can have to protect our home, family, state and nation from criminals of ALL kinds?
Mike Fangman January 18, 2013 at 06:46 AM
"Because untrained civilians with handguns will always defeat trained armies with tanks." -NO ONE EVER
BUTCH January 18, 2013 at 07:04 AM
For starters my old M- 2 90mm AAA gun does not fit in the garage! The suffering and poor Jew card , can u tell me why after so many Jews from the former USSR were sent to Israel or Brooklyn in the 90's and Stalin killed so many of them and to top it off 90% of the Communist Party were Jews! Rabbi Eckstein is still appealing to Western Christians in his fellowship of Christ killers and dummies to feed the starving old Jews left in Russia while super Jew Sheldon Adelson has financed screw ball TPARTY and Treasonous Robme for a Billion total in the last 2 elections, now why hasn't he fed the poor starving Jews and why are they starving while he and the Fed and Walls street Banksters who are much worse than Madoff who only screwed and took from Jews, the scumbag of AIG also a EZRAITE is suing us for bailing his Kosher butt out, the Media controlled by Zionists never question the predatory banksters or laundering drug and vice money of Adelson starving jews, it is another form of increasing AMMO land profits.Don't any Ezraite in your Talmud reading synagogue help Ammoland or the starving Jews how many gated houses do the !% Jews need? On top of that the IDF found out most of the Russians released that went to ERETZ YISRAEL were goy who are uncut. it's a real crime the MURKAN theocrat's waging their "PRAISE the LORD and PASS the AMMO" ignore the real debates on the genocide ag Palestinians by the NETANYAHU -AIPAC government no money in that!
SonofJohn January 18, 2013 at 08:01 AM
ya finally got me laughing.......You said .........."For starters my old M- 2 90mm AAA gun does not fit in the garage! The suffering and poor Jew card , can u tell me why after so many Jews from the former USSR were sent to Israel or Brooklyn in the 90's and Stalin killed so many of them and to top it off 90% of the Communist Party were Jews! " What was the question clarify?
The Guru January 18, 2013 at 09:41 AM
Its 19. You need to learn how to use the find function in your web browser. Trust me, I've spent OVER 9000 hours to receive my trolling certification.
RB January 18, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Butch: "who is Rich sch"? Well, he was a poster on here who was finally banned. When someone posts right wing nonsense they may be referred to as Rich. Many of us think he is posting, possibly as McCloud but I never thought BS was Rich, he does not post enough links and his comments are not 7000 words.
Brad Drake January 18, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Mike F., you should look up the MUJAHIDEEN in Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation of that country. You should also look up the Viet Cong in Viet Nam against the French and later the U. S. led coalition. While you're at it, you should probably read about the Algerians against the French in the 1950s-1960s. It'd probably be a good idea then, after all those, to read about what is going on in Syria right now and what happened in Egypt and Libya recently. When you're done, please tell us again how untrained civilians have never defeated trained armies with tanks.

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