UPDATE: Amid Difficult Budget Realities, District 205 Parents Launch Petition to Fight New School Start Times

"There is no low-hanging fruit," board member Hirsch said. "There are no clear, simple options. We have cut across the board. Cut after cut after cut."

UPDATE: FEB. 12, 3:45 p.m.

The online petition now has 723 signatures.

UPDATE: JAN. 28, 9:25 p.m.

As of Monday night, the online petition, "Stop District 205 Time Changes," had 466 signatures.

Friday, Jan. 25:

An online petition titled, "Stop District 205 Time Changes," has been posted online by parents opposed to the district moving to a three-tier bus schedule. The petition reads:

"We, the undersigned, call to District 205 of Elmhurst, Illinois, to reconsider the proposal of shifting the school hours of our Elementary Schools.

We are in direct conflict with this proposal and do not want the elementary hours changed from our current 8:15 AM to 3 PM."

The petition had 61 signatures as of Friday morning.

Some parents in Elmhurst District 205 have been very vocal about their opposition to the district's consideration of moving to a three-tier bus system, which would result in an elementary school start time of about 8:55 a.m. and a dismissal time closer to 4 p.m.

Related: Idea of Adjusting to a New School Start Time Next Year Has Some Parents on Edge

But the move would save the district about $350,000 a year and potentially preserve as many as six teacher positions. It's not a secret that the district is again looking at making more budget cuts that could directly impact class sizes and educational programs. The district has made millions of dollars in cuts over the past few years.

District 205 parent Robin Belleau and a group of parents attended the School Board's last meeting on Tuesday. Belleau said a shift in start times would be devastating to working parents, who would be forced to put their kids in morning daycare or Rec Station in order to get to work on time.

"It will impact their ability to function throughout the day," she said. "It is not an environment that is conducive to learning. It's basically a warehouse for the kids ... and a huge additional cost (to working families)."

She also expressed doubt that the programs could accommodate the additional children, and said savings to the district would be minimal compared to the total budget.

"The $350,000 on the table is actually .03 percent of the budget you work with every year," she said. "I implore you to compare that to how it will impact families."

(Calculations actually put that number at about .3 percent, based on the district's total $100 million budget.)

By the Numbers

Board members on Tuesday examined five-year financial projections of the district's operating fund, which mainly includes staff salary and benefits costs and does not include capital projects and other financial considerations. Salaries and benefits make up about 80 percent of the district's total budget.

PMA Financial Network senior financial advisor Doreen Linderman painted a picture of low or negative fund balances and budget deficits for the foreseeable future based on the following assumptions:

  • A low consumer price index (1.7 percent for 2013) which limits the district's ability to tax under Illinois Tax Cap law
  • several years of declining property values (last year's EAV was down 8.5 percent)
  • sluggish new growth
  • zero increase in state aid. In fact, the state is only paying at 85 percent of what the district is entitled to. General state aid is projected to come in at only $360 per student this year and provides less than 8 percent of all revenue to the district.
  • Federal aid, which is 3 percent of the district's budget, could also be reduced, depending on the government's handling of sequestration.
  • enrollment increase of 4.4 percent over the next five years, or 372 students
  • additional staffing required based on state mandates for bilingual education and special education, in addition to staffing for increased enrollment
  • tuition increases of 10 percent for students who must be sent outside the district for special services
  • Technology needs. There has been no increase in technology spending, in fact there have been cuts for the past two years. The district must invest here to remain technologically relevant compared to other districts, board members say. Preliminary analysis shows the district needs to spend $2.7 million this fiscal year and $3 million next year just to maintain status quo.
  • increasing health benefits, expected to go up 6 percent for fiscal year 2014 and 8 percent in future years
  • "Transitional reinsurance fee" as part of the Affordable Health Care Act will add $127,000 to the budget.

Adding to these budget challenges is the possibility the state government will shift pension liabilities to the local school districts, which could cost District 205 $275,000 this year and as much as $1.4 million beginning in 2018.

This budget also does not take into consideration any life-safety or capital projects to repair the district's aging buildings. The district is facing $28 million in capital requests over the next 10 years.

"None of them are frivolous," board member Maria Hirsch said. "They are all significant, and we do not yet have a funding plan for those."

The board needs to look at the entire budget, but the purpose of reviewing the operating budget "is to give us a baseline," board member Chris Blum said.

"This is intended to anchor the discussion around recurring revenue streams," he said. "Unfortunately, this shows us increasing state mandates, benefit inflation, healthcare and whatnot are driving a structural deficit."

Board member Maria Hirsch reminded the board that they have been making reductions to staff "every year I've been on the board."

"If we go back 10 years and see what our certified staffing requirement was, see what enrollment was, I think we'll see it's the state mandates (that are driving staffing)," she said.

Board members agreed they need to look at a historical picture of the district's operating budget to better be able to explain to state legislators the funding challenges they face in relation to state mandates.

Board members want to see a new version of five-year predictions with a more conservative consumer price index built in, and they also asked the administration to come back with a list of cuts and any other ideas they can come up with to reduce expenditures.

"There is no low-hanging fruit," Hirsch said. "There are no clear, simple options. We have cut across the board. Cut after cut after cut."

Parents never want their children affected by cuts, she said.

"There's always a priority of 'Don't cut my program. Don't affect my child. Don't affect my life,' " she said. "These are all very valid concerns. But (our job) is to take these options and make a decision that's in the best long-term interest of the district. There is no simple answer."

Superintendent David Pruneau said his staff will bring back which have not yet been implemented.

"This is not rocket science at this point," he said. "The low-hanging fruit is long gone. We can take the list presented last year and update that with staff feedback on the results of the last budget cuts—what has worked, what has not worked, what has been devastating to the district."

Community involvement will be important in these decisions, Blum said.

"We need to have a community discussion on this," he said.

The School Board will next meet at 7:30 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 12.

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Ken T January 25, 2013 at 06:14 PM
http://elmhurstcusd205-il.schoolloop.com/news/view?id=1356609440474 And why can't $$ be used from the bonds they recently cashed in on from the state???
Ken T January 25, 2013 at 06:41 PM
I hope the Board listens to these parents...whether you are for or against it...at least people are getting out there and trying to make a difference for what they think is best for their kids and families. I applaud such motivation!!!
Erica Martin January 25, 2013 at 06:58 PM
So the school board is willing to completely disrupt the lives of the parents and students of district 205 for a $350,000 savings, yet the school board drags their heals on an agreement with the city that would put an immediate $1,000,000 in their pockets? In the proposed agreement, as I understand it, the city of Elmhurst would immediately release $1,000,000 in funds from one of their TIFs for the schools to use as they see fit. After that, the schools would see incremental benefits as the new TIF generated property tax growth that is sure to come with the new Marianos. The agreement would generate 5X the revenue for the schools than would be generated without the TIF for THE SCHOOLS , yet some on the school board (most notably John McDonough) fight the agreement because the city wasn't willing to give them MORE than the 5X they are supposed to be getting. Instead, McDonough and crew would rather we all have our lives disrupted so they can save $350,000. It's great the board is tryiong to be as thrifty as it can be, but how about spending as much time trying to solve problems as create them?
Ken T January 25, 2013 at 07:04 PM
Well said Erica!! And they are not even saying what the other options are that they are going to propose? I think this is all so sneaky and seems like a done deal to me. Again, good for these parents to stand up and expose the board and get people like you out there speaking some actual sense on what they could and should be doing with the $$...and not disrupting the lives of people who hired and pay their salaries.
Karen Chadra (Editor) January 25, 2013 at 07:10 PM
No one on the School Board is fighting the TIF agreement. They are trying to come to consensus on the wording of the agreement so that there can be no confusion about the intention of the agreement for future boards. All are in agreement with the three major elements of the agreement. Here is a story written last summer: http://elmhurst.patch.com/articles/city-offers-park-and-school-districts-revenue-sharing-agreement-to-lessen-the-burden-of-tif School Board officials have been providing updates on the details of this agreement at nearly every meeting, and every time it's discussed, the sticking point is the wording to lock in the provisions of the intergovernmental agreement so there is no misinterpretation decades from now.
Karen Chadra (Editor) January 25, 2013 at 07:12 PM
And here is another story we did last summer: http://elmhurst.patch.com/articles/revenue-sharing-plan-would-spread-tif-wealth-quickly TIF is complicated, which is why I didn't get into it in this lengthy story about the operating budget. Suffice to say, TIF figures were not figured into this operating budget because they haven't been finalized yet.
Kirsten Powers January 25, 2013 at 07:16 PM
Sorry Patch you have an error in your math there... The proposed cut IS .3% NOT 3%. $350k of $100m annual budget = .0035 or .3% (so that is, LESS than 1% to clarify)
Karen Chadra (Editor) January 25, 2013 at 07:25 PM
Correct—it's .3 percent, as opposed to the stated .03 percent. Typo on my part.
Erica Martin January 25, 2013 at 07:40 PM
Karen - thanks for the links to the other stories, however, I do not agree with your assesment that no school board members are fighting the TIF. John McDonough is certainly against the TIF, or at least parts of it. I asked my Alderman what the hold up was and why the city wasn't moving forward with the agreement. I was told the agreement is in the school board's hands, and has been for a couple of months. The city is waiting for a response from 205.
Karen Chadra (Editor) January 25, 2013 at 07:59 PM
The city is being very cooperative in working with the school district on this agreement, which is a great thing for all residents and shows good faith on the part of the city. The bottom line, however, is that the city does not need permission from any other taxing body to move forward with TIF, as they already have done. TIF 4 already has been established, and they are working on setting up two more TIFs. Legally, it is 100 percent in the city's control. I don't see anyone on the school board as trying to hold anything up, but rather to make very clear the details. They learned from a previous TIF agreement that leaving too much to interpretation causes much conflict later on. Everyone has their own (strong) opinions on TIF. Love it or hate it. But from what has been said in school board meeting after school board meeting, the board members are on the same page with this agreement.
Matt Johanson January 25, 2013 at 08:09 PM
Seriously Erica, maybe have a clue before you start falsely accusing people in a public forum. If anything, the Board should be commended for standing up to the city council on the TIF agreement and being diligent in getting the best possible deal for the school district. As a taxpayer, I'm grateful for their efforts.
Matt Johanson January 25, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Bridget, school board members don't receive salaries, they are volunteering their time to try to improve our schools, though I have no idea why anyone would take that thankless position and expose themselves to all of the uninformed and angry people in this town. You'll notice no one says a word when something positive happens, like Bryan and Lincoln recently receiving blue ribbon awards (two of only 21 awarded in the entire state), but when they need to take a serious look at fixing budget issues, let the bashing begin. The board is elected by ALL of the taxpayers, not just the parents of students, so the board owes it to ALL taxpayers to look at ALL possible solutions to budget problems. This busing idea was floated as a possible solution, along with a bunch of other ideas. Personally, I’m not in favor of changing the start times, but I’m happy they are looking at all angles to find a solution. If you don’t like what is proposed, then take action like these people have, but at least be informed before you start throwing accusations around.
Gerry F January 25, 2013 at 08:39 PM
The City is not required to give the School or Park district anything. The city is trying to be a good partner and there seems to be a "we want more" attitude on at least the part of the school board.
Matt Johanson January 25, 2013 at 08:58 PM
How dare you, Senator? Don't you know that anything spoken by an Alderman is to be strictly regarded as 100% fact?
Erica Martin January 25, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Matt (or should I write John???) and Senator, I didn't name my Alderman for just this reason, their job, like the school board's job, is hard enough without me opening them up for attacks from low life scum like you. I called him because I wanted him to know that I wanted, and expected, the city council to do everything they could to help the schools. I was told, and then checked for myself, that the $1,000,000 will be released to the schools when the agreement is signed. Why has that agreement not been signed? I don't know, ask the school board, who apparently too busy figuring out how to change class times to get back to the city. I also learned that agreements like these do not exist anywhere else in the state. When other towns put in these TIFs, the other taxing bodies get nothing. I appreciate the efforts being made by all parties, but the $350,000 solution is sitting there, right out in the open, it just needs to be signed. Literally. P.S. John, I mean Matt, if you didn't want the job, why did you, I mean he, run for the position? Quit your complaining.
Matt Johanson January 25, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Wrong again, Erica. I'm not John, just an informed citizen. John can speak for himself if he chooses. I love how you say you didn't want to "open them up to attacks from low life scum" when you were the one who started the discussion by attacking the school board. Kind of scummy, don't you think?
Karen Chadra (Editor) January 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM
The TIF agreement will help, but it will not solve District 205's financial problems.
PJC January 25, 2013 at 10:33 PM
How about trimming the large amount of fat at the top? The school administration has got to be trimmed and I don't mean secretarial positions. And is it true that the administration staff does not contribute a dime to their health care premiums? Seems like a good place to start saving money!
Dan January 26, 2013 at 02:20 AM
I have a hard time believing the school budget is in a bind because of declining property values. Do you know anyone in Elmhurst paying less in property taxes to the school district than they did in the past? The only reason property taxes are even a factor is because Illinois has created an out of balanced funding structure that relies too much on property taxes and too little on state funds. If property taxes made up say half of the income to the school system and state funds the other half than the booms and busts of the housing market would have a much smaller impact. Most other states fund their schools in a balanced way. Illinois is dead last in funding education from the state level yet still provides 28% of the average school district budget. Compare this to the 8% of the budget supplied by Illinois to district 205 as mentioned in this article. This 20% difference equals around 22 million in lost funds. The real issue is the lack of funding from Illinois. According to this article Illinois only provides $360 per student to the general fund. That equals less than three million dollars to district . Somehow Illinois is able to scrape up around $1,750,000 to say rebuild a green house or maybe a million to build a prairie path underpass but when it comes to funding education Illinois is broke. Although Springfield is flush out of funds apparently the small farm town of Grant Illinois isn't and is able to come up funds for pet projects throughout the state.
North Side January 26, 2013 at 01:36 PM
This is a key part of our budget troubles "additional staffing required based on state mandates for bilingual education and special education, in addition to staffing for increased enrollment" You need to educate yourself on this a little. Within the budget at a glance document you'll see what I mean. Enrollment since 2007 has increased by 7% ( student enrollment '07 7724 vs '13 8288). Yet ELL population has increased by nearly 50% going from 211students in '07 to 476 in '11. It's interesting that this report does not include 2012 numbers or projections. We need to challenge the board and superintendent on how they plan to address the ELL needs. Do we have the right staff in the district? Do we have the right programs? Is the budget for this population correct? Do we have the right staff? Is the spike in population a reality? Do the students actually live in the district or are they taken advantage of what we are doing right in the district? What's causing the enrollment spike?
D205 Parent January 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM
Where is the $430,000 that the district received from the Title I funds for Churchville and Conrad Fischer? There are too many children not properly living within our district that attend our schools. The principal at Conrad Fischer stated that "we have many children that sleep at their grandparents house during the week and go to their parents on the weekend." That is called childcare, not living in the district. The district needs to check the residency at Conrad and Churchville immediately! If someone hands in forms stating they live with a grandparent, that should be a red flag automatically and be checked on. What grandparent would say no to using an address. There is one that lives in Franklin Park and attends are school. Maybe if we could get these people out of the schools then we would not need as many teachers and it would solve the problem instead of disrupting all of our lives.
Janie January 28, 2013 at 09:12 PM
I also think we are a bit lax in our residency requirements. I've only had to prove one time (my initial registration 12 years ago) that I actually live where I say I do. I know it would increase administration, but we should have to prove our residencey every year at the time of student registration.


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