Press "1" if You're Confused by This Call

Controversy resulting from a Thursday night robo-call about the mayoral race has one candidate asking, "Why is this newsworthy?"

It's not uncommon for residents' phones to be ringing frequently during an election season, with automated calls coming from various candidates asking for votes and pollsters attempting to predict the outcome. With the April 9 Consolidate Election still two months away, one recent poll has created controversy and finger-pointing, and a bit of confusion.

A "robocall" that went out to Elmhurst residents last Thursday evening and Friday afternoon polled residents about Elmhurst's April mayoral election. It asked residents to press keys to answer questions about what they are looking for in a mayor.

Elmhurst Patch received a number of comments about the call on the site, as well as via email and Facebook. Residents opined that the call was unprofessional, confusing, long and tedious, causing some who started taking the poll to quit midway through. One resident said the questions asked were skewed negatively toward all three candidates, and some residents were called twice.

Elmhurst mayoral candidate and Aldermen Steve Morley (6th Ward) was called out by a commenter on Elmhurst Patch as the initiator of the call. The commenter questioned Morley's ethics and leadership ability, saying, "how incredibly sad is it that he already is going negative."

Morley told Elmhurst Patch on Friday that he had nothing to do with the robocall. He said he was surprised when he learned about the call from friends and that he didn't want it to be a distraction from the campaign.

"I did not conduct the call or solicit the call or have any involvement with it whatsoever, and I don't particularly care who did," he said.

"I don't need a poll to tell me what I stand for, why I'm running. I believe Elmhurst needs strong leadership, progressive solutions and a commitment to good government. That's what I offer and that's why I'm running for mayor."

Mayoral candidate and Alderman Mark Mulliner (7th Ward) also denied any involvement.

"We did not do, nor did our nonpartisan campaign pay to have done, the robo-survey Feb. 7," Mulliner said Friday. "There is no reason for our campaign to expend money for any kind of phone survey."

Alan Brinkmeier, who works for Mulliner's campaign and is running his own campaign for District 205 School Board, added, "... ours is an issues-based campaign about the future direction of integrity in Elmhurst government."

When contacted by Elmhurst Patch on Saturday, candidate Diane Gutenkauf (1st Ward) said she was aware of "several different campaign polls (that) are or have been conducted." She questioned why this is even an issue.

"Yes, my campaign has issued one poll," she said. "Polling is a common campaign tool. However, I don't believe the structure and content of the various polls is ever newsworthy."

She said she is focused on running an issues-based campaign for mayor.

"For the last six years on City Council, I have advocated for taxpayers and proposed reforms that will streamline our government and cut waste," she said. "Instead of worrying about rumors and mud-slinging, I challenge my opponents to engage me on the issues."

Doremus Jessup February 12, 2013 at 05:18 PM
Seriously, did Mike Madigan take your PB&J in kindergarten? This is a local race with three local candidates running for office. I'm pretty sure no one here in Elmhurst is in Madigan's district, so no one can vote for him. Maybe you can pick one Pseudonym and lighten up with the comments on your elderly boogie man in Springfield, or take them to a Patch in his district.
Peggy Suratt February 12, 2013 at 05:56 PM
seriously folks, lets get real here for a second. if ms gtnkf wants to get in bed (figuratively speaking) with a democratic "political operative" (his bio words, not mine), that is her business. but if she thinks that fact is NOT news, she is living in a fantasy world. and now, she is making the classic political miscalculation (doubling down on a bad hand): instead of admitting her error and moving on, she is trying to spin her deceptive move as being "not newsworthy". and doremus, you just crack me up. you are trying every literary/semantic trick in the book (deflection, humor, misdirection, exaggeration; shall i keep going?) to back a losing hand. c'mon now doremus "you gotta know when to hold em and when to fold em" ...
Likes the Facts February 12, 2013 at 07:50 PM
Peggy, You said in a few lines what needed to be said and has not been by anyone that has commented until you. No matter where or from whom (Deep Blue, Rudi who is working for Friends of Diane Gutenkauf, Senate Democratic Victory Fund or Madigan's operative Doremus or other Madigan supporters) the candidate is getting her money support and advice, this venture by her into this robocall has CRIPPLED any hope the candidate ever had of being a positive force for change in Elmhurst. That is newsworthy. And the denial ".... I don't believe the structure and content of the ....polls is ever newsworthy" shows how out of touch the candidate is with what a majority of Elmhurst residents think. I expect The Patch will follow up on it to continue to investigate to shed light on the newsworthy aspects so many have clearly talked about as relates to her mayoral run. Other opportunities exist. Questions from the audience at events like the League of Women Voters event Susan Rose mentioned would be a good way to follow up. Or, written questions by The Patch to the various mayor candidates that seeks the results of the Feb. 7 - 9 robopoll could reveal key information that readers and voters desire to know. This is the hand the candidate has now dealt herself to play in this campaign. It's a campaign issue of major proportion. If only she realizes it now she can decide to "fold 'em" as you put it? She diverts from real discussion on a York underpass, stormwater etc.
B Rush February 12, 2013 at 08:44 PM
roburt kolb I live in 5t ward what do you think of the poll i took it + it was long
Jim Court February 14, 2013 at 02:59 AM
I cannot speculate about the Elmhurst police but I know this is not unheard of by any measure and takes place throughout the country. If you have a concern I would first approach the Chief of Police if at all possible and if that is not accomplished perhaps the States Attorney. Send me an e-mail if you wish.
John February 14, 2013 at 08:45 PM
I find the Doremus Jessup comments incredibly offensive. No, Madigan didn't take a "PB&J away" but many of us believe he helped take away our political representation in Elmhurst with the gerrymandered redistricting that occurred. To be forced into a Chicago dominated congressional district while living in Dupage County, miles from the closest Chicago boudary, is akin to having our voting rights taken away. As a Democrat, you might not agree but please don't belittle those who DO feel this way with that type of comment. That being said, your second comment trying to play down Madigan's role is laughable. Readers, PLEASE REMEMBER the debate that happened on this very "Patch site" back when Dem Conroy was running for School board and how "outraged" her supporters were because it was a "local and independent" election - and why were people "picking on her" pointing out that she was a Democrat. Well the reason is the same here...Significant $$ are being spent trying to handpick candidates that Madigan will own...its not even about being a Democrat... its about being bought and paid for by a group in Chicago that does not care about Elmhurst but how Elmhurst can be minimized as a voice against their agenda. Even if you ARE a Democrat, vote for the best person who cares about Elmhurst, not a candidate whose biggest claim to fame is screaming at the Mayor in front of high school students and who a majority of Aldermen find to be counter-productive.
Elm Forest February 14, 2013 at 10:02 PM
John, your response is great and makes sense of what many feel about the Chicago/Madigan issues that are going to be facing Elmhurst and DuPage residents for a long time. Conroy claims to be an artist, yeah right? Maybe she should paint a mask of "Pension Mike" Madigan's face and wear it.
Jim Court February 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM
Do you feel that you have absolute proof that Diane is a Madigan ally? Although Pete could be often impatient and sometimes condescending ( I imagine I could be this way if I had to sit through some of these meetings) it was my impression that she was an independent voice. I thought me have allowed herself to get baited into what appeared to be below her character but again, being frustrated can do these things when people are passionate personalities. I am never certain who might be undermining others in an attempt at positioning and framing perceptions. I have asked others to respond to the question of who do you favor and why. Make it fact based although personal opinion matters. I love many things about our community. I only hope to see it continue to evolve. I respect and admire educated and motivated people who make this a better place to live.
Voice of Reason February 15, 2013 at 03:06 PM
hey jim: not to beat a dead horse here, but lets look at the evidence; or shall we say "follow the money". madigan's machine just spent in excess of 750 large to install d conroy in springfield. the first time they tried this, she smeared mr reboletti in unfathomable ways (very unladylike of ms conroy to put it mildly), then two years later, they poured more money in, got a better district (more villa park people), and the cash and votes poured in (conroy defeats kordik). now fast forward to mayoral robo survey. someone did it, either one of the three candidates or Oz. both Ald. Morley and Ald. Mulliner have denied it, and their denials are clear and unconditional. Ms. Gutenkauf has not denied it, her statement is ABOVE, READ IT ! she has not admitted a connection to Deep Blue Strategies and democratic political operative Rudi Pattitucci because that would be political suicide, and she knows it. So unless the Wizard of Oz commissioned this deceptive survey ... please connect the dots Jim !!!!
Henry February 15, 2013 at 03:44 PM
Find out who Mannion (Daley/Madigan crony) is working for this time. Word out it's Morley.
Henry's Brother February 15, 2013 at 04:00 PM
I love how the Gutenkauf trolls are trying SO hard to deflect this poop storm away from Gutenkauf and onto Morley. It's comical. The word is out. Gutenkauf in bed with the Dems and Madigan, and like her handlers in Springfield, she keeps making mistake after mistake after mistake. First, her record AGAINST everything, second, telling a collegue to "SHUT UP" on the dais in front of the high school aged Mayor for a Day winner and lastly, her incredibly stupid political robo call/push poll. This isn't on Morley or Mulliner. It's about Gutenkauf. You can paint over a rust covered car to make it look nice in the short term, but eventually, the rust is going to show through...
Doremus Jessup February 15, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Anybody google Steve Morley and Elmhurst and get that Mark Mulliner ad on Google?
Elm Forest February 15, 2013 at 05:19 PM
Doremus Jessup, Why don't you give up? We know who you are trying to promote, the one with the robo-call campaign poll. Who is Ms.Gutenkauf, if we read the relationship correctly? Distraction will not work.
Jim Court February 15, 2013 at 06:02 PM
Elm, I do not pretend to know what anybody is thinking. There are days when I wonder if I know what I should be thinking. As far as honesty as the only criteria, I would not want an honest yet completely incompetent person to lead the city. It would be a disaster. In a time of narcissism and sociopathic "leadership" I would look for an intelligent person who possesses true character, the heart of a statesman, a knowledgeable business mind, a very innovative and dynamic personality who would represent the best interests of Elmhurst and its citizens. I would not want that person to be a figurehead. Never. This seems to be a lot to ask of someone who is paid a pittance and who is constrained by the type of Government that Elmhurst is organized under. I wonder why we don't recruit the very best and the brightest from local corporations and businesses, from our University, schools and Hospital system. I would encourage our youth to participate yet at the same time we need someone extremely capable who can stand above all of the different opinions and ideas and move us towards a constructive consensus. Hahn has suffered from an analysis of paralysis that is an example of a positive turning into nothingness. I like most people. I struggle with those who are exceedingly narrow minded, selfish, angry, hostile, overly controlling and ...........I better shut up. The negative detractors might be foaming at the mouth.
Likes the Facts February 15, 2013 at 06:37 PM
@ Doremus Jessup To answer your question who are you going to vote for any why, please tell us why you are going to waste your vote on Ms. Gutenkauf, a candidate that cannot win? For me, I like the concept of Mr. Mulliner telling people where he stands and saying why. Do I agree with everything he says? No. But I respect a candidate like Mulliner that goes out on a limb to state what he thinks and tells why. That is not Mr. Morley's style, to say in public what he believes or even what he is thinking. So, please, explain why you are going to waste your vote?
Doremus Jessup February 15, 2013 at 06:48 PM
I'll be voting for Miss Gutenkauf because of her experience, her leadership, and her example with regards to issues that are important to me, especially the environment. I agree Mr. Morley has not put himself out there like Mr. Mulliner and Miss Gutenkauf, at least that is my opinion.
Likes the Facts February 15, 2013 at 07:13 PM
I'll be voting for Mr. Mulliner because of his strong stance supporting Kool Cars way back when which is very environment friendly. He was supporting those kinds of things before either Mr. Morley or Ms. Gutenkauf were around. And, he can bring the city together which in my opinion Ms. Gutenkauf cannot hope to do because she can't get enough votes.
Elm Forest February 15, 2013 at 07:43 PM
Really Jim? It's just your chatter and attempts to denigrate. People only want the truth in who authored the robo. You can certainly continue to denigrate but it's sad. Why don't you tell everyone who you're voting for? I will vote for Mulliner for a number of reasons. He has integrity for a start but he is the best candidate in my opinion as well.
Jim Court February 15, 2013 at 07:55 PM
Elm,, I have to wonder where I am denigrating anybody? Just general ideas about any candidate and what should be looked for in a candidate. I am not thin-skinned. Denigrate me all you want. I probably deserve some of it. Perhaps I am one who looks at the "Forest" and you look at the "trees" Both views are important and necessary. I am a very big fan of Mark. I have never had a problem believing in much of what Diane represents. I don't know enough about the other candidate yet.
lives in 1st ward February 15, 2013 at 08:24 PM
for the longest time, I believed that mrs gutenakuf was basically a principled woman. i didn't always agree with her; thought some of her "issues" were a little on the nitpicky side. but at the end of the day, i assumed that if full trasparency was her motto, that she would always live by it. but now, i'm starting to question that. most of us dont know what the survey said. but it seems like unless she addresses it head on, not only will it not go away, but im thinking it really shouldn't. even if someone on her campaign ordered it, it's obvious from this article that she planned to use it. So i think she owes it to us to share the wording of it. Then we the people could be the judge of whether it was "innocent polling" or "deceptive data manipulation" That seems like the "transparent" thing to do ... or am i missing something?
Elm Forest February 15, 2013 at 10:12 PM
Thanks for the comment "lives". I think your analysis is correct and appreciate knowing what your thoughts are on this Transparency issue of Diane's.
lives in 1st ward February 17, 2013 at 01:36 PM
you know the more i read about this issue, the more i think even the local politicians are full of ^#%. i guess for some people transparency is only a one way street. and speaking of transparency, did any one notice how county board member diciani is now campaigning at funerals; yes, he actually sent a huge wreath his name on it to the jack tosh funeral ... that is just so wrong on so many levels !
Likes the Facts February 17, 2013 at 01:54 PM
@ in 1st ward We can start the process in the April election to get rid of all the incumbents. I was at the Jack Tosh wake. I saw the poster board size sign Pension Pete posted on the flowers. Rather than humility and respect for the family, he just like so many of the incumbents think it is all about him (them). Let's get rid of the incumbents this time around and start fresh on our local elected officials for the parks, the schools and city hall.
Elm Forest February 17, 2013 at 03:31 PM
This is really unbelievable. I am still shaking my head in disbelief. Does Pete Dicianni have no shame? I never voted for him and am glad he is no longer our mayor but there must be a concerted effort to 'Flag' this politician and stop his march to statewide power. He is not the 'Type' of person anyone needs representing them regardless of what he could promise them.
Independence666 February 17, 2013 at 04:09 PM
Sadly, Dicianni fits right in there with today's big league politicians. Did anyone notice how Obama used the parents of that slain girl on the south side as props during his state of the union address. All politicians are opportunists. Some will even use death as a tool to advance their agenda.
Jim Court February 17, 2013 at 09:10 PM
Once again I have written a long response, signed in properly, and watched it disappear. It might be me but I doubt it. Patch is the ONLY place this happens to me at.
Jim Court February 17, 2013 at 09:12 PM
I didn't even have to again log on for the above statement to appear which proves that I did everything properly.
Jim Court February 25, 2013 at 11:04 PM
Let's set the record straight. I made all the robo calls myself. Am I glad it is over with.
Likes all Facts March 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM
JIm Let's get rid of the incumbents in this election. Start fresh on our local elected officials for the schools and over at city hall too. Any incumbent OUT. Let the new fresh ideas in.
Jim Court March 12, 2013 at 01:20 PM
It seems a little late to take the position of getting the incumbents out. We have solid candidates yet I wonder who really has the Madigan connection. I do not believe it is Mark Mulliner, which is good. Does anybody have proof of any connections? This would require a write in candidacy would it not. Since no one is stepping forward who would be voted for ? There are things that Elmhurst has done right, There are many things they have done wrong. We really need somebody who will challenge the status quo, analyze everything we do, improve all processes, seek out what is best for Elmhurst, and really promote our city as one headed toward a world class status.


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