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Snow Problem: Elmhurst Man Charged in Connection With Neighbor Snow Squabble

Police say an Elmhurst man refused to remove the snow he shoveled onto a neighbor's property.

Credit: Joseph Hosey
Credit: Joseph Hosey
An Elmhurst man caught a disorderly conduct case for allegedly piling snow onto a neighbor's property.

Jimmy Koumoundouros, 52, of 466 E. Butterfield Road was charged about 6 p.m. Wednesday.

Koumoundouros "continues to shovel snow onto his neighbor's house," police said. "This causes concern for seepage into victim's basement."

Koumoundouros got a chance to slip the charge but didn't take it, police said.

"Offender was asked to removed the snow. He refused," police said. "Offender was cited for disorderly conduct (disturbing the property of another) and released on scene."

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Jorge Zapata February 11, 2014 at 10:16 PM
The thaw next week (and rain on top of it) is going to just be a damn mess. Does anyone remember if our last April's flood w/ 6 or 7 inches of rain also had a thaw prior to it? I thought it was just a wet month w/ one terrible night of rain, but would love a reminder as to how it went down (nervous as heck about basement flooding). Thx!
Idont Givitout February 11, 2014 at 11:03 PM
My shop vac is ready to go!
5DecadesInElmhurs February 12, 2014 at 01:39 PM
Sleeping Bear - The side yard setbacks do go "way back." You'll notice that home in the "Emery Subdivision," 100-200 blocks of South Kenilworth & Arlington, are nicely spaced out. As mentioned above, fire was a large reason as to why the town fathers, in the 1880's mandated certain distances between the homes. And yes, the City has decreased side setbacks from something like five feet per home to three (keeping in mind that this is measured from the outermost projection of the structure such as the eaves). On top of that, the City has increasingly granted variances for those poor builders who want to maximize house square footage. [another issue is the subdivision of the 100' lots into 50'. It used to be that the City considered 55' the minimum, but holding to that code means the poor builders cannot squeeze in an extra profit center, er, house.] The fence situation that I mentioned does seriously impact my neighbors snow shoveling. When he bought the place there was no fence. After ten years, a new neighbor, erected a seven foot stockade which butts up against the driveway. His house butts up against the driveway on the other side. This means that along the driveway, where the house and fence are located, all that snow has to be carried from there, to the front or back yards. How can you not see that this requires some extra work when the snow comes? The point was that the new fence changed the snow removal, created extra work, which does "exacerbate" snow removal. What is false about that statement? Where did I ask for a change of code? As for my "tushy," I shovel two "mile long" driveways by hand. I have never asked anyone to help me, and I do the neighbors as this Senior Citizen does not have the money, or muscle, to do much of anything else. I feel that criticism of past City Zoning should be discussed in the context of how some things were never thought through. I can very much repect your point of keeping the snow on ones own property, but didn't the City set up its own Citizens for failure when the approved these long driveways along the property lines? Looking back, what was the zoning logic? Either the City figured that tossing snow along the driveway was something that all the neighbors could deal with, or the City completely lacked imagination regarding snow removal. Let me also put it this way regarding a fence. I can legally enclose my side yard, with a stockade fence, that would be atop the property line along my neighbors driveway. That senior would then have an area 35' feet deep, and 80" wide where the snow would have to be picked up and moved a minimum of fifteen feet to the front or rear of that house. I would be well within my rights to build such a fence, but I will not as that would a dick move. And, ironically, I think about that when I shovel his drive and place that snow pile on my own property. You see, acting within ones rights, is not necessarily the same as doing what is right.
Idont Givitout February 12, 2014 at 03:41 PM
Etiquette, a lost art form in today's society! few of us have it and even fewer knows what it means! (I applaud you 5).
WLA February 12, 2014 at 05:17 PM
Weather like this requires a bit more neighborliness on all of our part, whether its being patient behind a driver you think is going too slow, tolerating your neighbor's early morning snow blowing. Once the weather warms up we can be jerks to each other again.

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