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Elmhurst Memorial Healthcare Dispels Rumor of a New Facility Fee

Change in billing has led to speculation that a new fee is being charged.

Elmhurst Memorial Healthcare’s new hospital campus hasn’t opened yet, but already some are asking how much it’s going to cost to use it. 

“What’s up with the facility fee being charged by EMHC?” one online reader asked Elmhurst Patch. “I have heard other moms talking about [their pediatricians] dropping their affiliation with Elmhurst Hospital because of this fee. Is this true or not?”   

The answer is, a facility fee is being charged, but it's nothing new.

Patients and/or their insurance carriers have always paid two types of fees for outpatient physician services. One covers professional costs for time and medical advice. The other is called a facility fee, although it covers more than just office space. It includes nursing staff, clerical support, computer systems, medical supplies and more.

A change in billing practices, however, has made the fee more visible to users, in some cases, said Sheri Scott, EMHC's executive director of marketing and public relations.

“Physicians affiliated with EMHC recently implemented a new hospital-based model of care,” Scott said. “Charges for professional services and facility fees were previously combined into one bill. Hospital-based clinics are required to bill separately for professional and facility fees. This change in billing practices for outpatient physician offices, however, is not at all associated with the new hospital.”

If a patient has insurance coverage, Scott said, these fees are subject to the terms of individual insurance policies.

“An insurance company will either process these two bills as it did when they were billed as a physician office or may process them as an outpatient hospital claim,” she said. “Actually, the one for the physician’s professional services has been reduced because of the change.”

Scott says hospital-based billing is widely used for integrated healthcare services like those at Elmhurst Memorial Healthcare. And since the change took effect in January of this year, it could have fueled speculation about a new facility fee.

“Again, this is not a new fee. It is simply a change from one bill for both professional and facility charges to two separate bills,” Scott said. “There is no fee for using the new hospital, and no providers have severed their affiliations with EMHC because of the move to a hospital-based model.”

Scott says the new hospital-based model of care offers many advantages to patients, including integrated health systems and electronic medical records (especially helpful in emergencies), consistency in delivery of care, high standards for safety and quality of care and state-of-the-art facilities.

The move to a hospital-based model of care for affiliated physician practices allows EMHC to continue to attract high quality providers and make them available to patients, Scott said.

The new facility, at 155 E. Brush Hill Road in Elmhurst,  on June 19, and will be open for patient care on June 25.

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ArtsyMom May 16, 2011 at 09:59 pm
This is an interesting slant - but my bills box says different! After paying my $30 co-pay to see the dermatologist in January, I received a bill in March for an additional $52. That's an expensive rash!
Chris May 27, 2011 at 11:12 pm
All-time classic PR quote: "A change in billing practices, however, has made the fee more visible to users."
The "change in billing practices" being, of course, the fact that they are now charging us that fee. A doctor's visit that used to cost a $20 insurance co-pay now costs that same co-pay, plus an additional $50 fee. Why doesn't the insurance company cover the fee? Because most insurance policies don't include coverage of a "Local Monopoly Charge." So, no problem. Just go find another doctor. But not so fast. These guys have medical care pretty neatly locked up for many miles around. What kind of jerk can smile for the cameras and claim there is no new fee here? I'm so happy that the "rumor" started by the bill I received in the mail has now been "dispelled" by our diligent local journalists. I still have to pay it, but at least no nasty rumors are circulating.
Lloyd Robert June 13, 2011 at 07:12 pm
We cannot afford to let Elmhurst Memorial get away with this attempt at stealing from us ...
Lloyd Robert June 13, 2011 at 07:19 pm
I think I will start a picket line ....They need to realize that if we were made aware of their billing procedures ahead of time, then we could decide to go to another provider ...
I have been in touch with Blue Cross and Blue Shield of ILLINOIS and they are not aware of these changes . I have used the Sciller Avenue facility for years at a 30 dollar co-pay and now they want to change a procedure just to get greedier than they are ... Did you ever go to Lombard and see the facility on Elm and Main Street -- Pretty Nice and Pretty NEW ... What about the sleep center on Main Street in Lombard ??? -- These guys are making money , lots of it , and keep complaining because they are not covering their bills yet they put up the biggest construction project in all of the Chicagoland area last year in Elmhurst ... TIME FOR A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT !!!
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:03 pm
Similar complaints are occurring more often, consumer advocates across the country say, because patients increasingly are being charged the fees, the result of an obscure change in Medicare rules that occurred nearly a decade ago. Called "provider-based billing," it allows hospitals that own physician practices and outpatient clinics that meet certain federal requirements to bill separately for the facility as well as for physician services. Because hospitals that bill Medicare beneficiaries this way must do so for all other patients, facility fees affect patients of all ages. Doctors' offices owned by physicians and freestanding clinics are not permitted to charge them. Unlike other add-ons that have aroused public ire - baggage charges on airlines, surcharges for concert tickets or resort fees tacked on by hotels - outpatient facility fees, which range from about $25 to hundreds of dollars per visit, may involve a service that is a matter of life and death, such as chemotherapy.
"It seems like a lot of people's insurance [plans] are no longer covering the facility fees" as they did previously and that hospital-owned practices have proliferated, said Richard Gundling, vice president of the Healthcare Financial Management Association, an industry group representing financial executives. The fees could generate an additional $30,000 annually per physician for hospitals.
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:03 pm
Hospital executives say revenue from these fees is necessary to help defray their overhead, pay salaries and meet stringent standards set by the federal government and inspectors, requirements that do not apply to their competitors.
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:05 pm
Critics vehemently disagree. They regard the fees as disguised price increases that ratchet up the cost of care at a time consumers can least afford it. Many say that facility fees underscore the urgent need for transparency in pricing for medical services and exemplify the relentless cost-shifting that is driving more Americans into medical debt and bankruptcy. It is common for facility fees to be applied to an insurance plan's hospital deductible, which can be thousands of dollars higher than a physician deductible.
To Alan Sager, a professor of health policy and management at the Boston University School of Public Health, facility fees are "a tax on sick people" and reflect the "financial anarchy that pervades health care in the U.S." "They are the latest gimmick to generate additional revenue for hospitals," whose profit margins have sagged in the past two years as the economy has nosedived, Sager said. "It's like a barber saying, 'That'll be $20 for a haircut and $10 for sitting in my chair,
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:07 pm
Earlier this year, some Ohio residents were outraged to discover that a $55 facility charge was being tacked onto bills from nine family health centers owned by the Cleveland Clinic. Some patients complained that they were given no notice; others told the Cleveland Plain Dealer they had received a letter they couldn't understand stating that "services will now be grouped into two categories on your billing statement."
Same Building, Different Fee Just figuring out whether a doctor is part of a hospital outpatient clinic can be difficult. While some clinics are distant from a hospital, others are in the same building, sometimes on the same floor as doctors who are not part of such a clinic - and do not collect a facility fee. We need to stop playing these kinds of games," said Mark Rukavina, executive director of the Access Project, a Boston-based research and advocacy group that focuses on medical debt. Rukavina sees the fees as "a tiny sliver" of a major problem facing consumers: figuring out the actual price of medical services coupled with camouflaged cost-shifting that is "gobbling up family resources." In the past two years, researchers have found that the average family deductible paid by consumers has risen sharply - between 30 and 64 percent, depending on the size of the employer. Co-payments, co-insurance and premiums have also spiked.
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:08 pm
Don May, vice president for policy at the American Hospital Association, disputes the notion that facility fees are a way for cash-strapped hospitals to boost revenue. Outpatient clinics, he says, must meet standards that "are more stringent than those governing freestanding doctors' offices or clinics." And those clinics have proliferated in order to increase consumers' access to high-quality care.
anger over the fees resulted in a pair of class action lawsuits alleging that hospitals violated Washington state's consumer protection law. Both suits were settled in 2006 with refunds to thousands of patients and a posted price list. The first case was filed after plaintiff Lori Mill was charged $1,133 for a 30-second toenail clipping to check for a possible fungal infection performed by a doctor at a clinic attached to the Virginia Mason Medical Center. Mill said she visited the clinic because it was near her office and was never told about the $418 facility fee until she got the bill. Her plan required her to pay 20 percent of her medical bills. The same procedure at a different Virginia Mason facility, which was not designated an outpatient clinic, would have cost Mill a maximum of $269 - and no fee.
ed scott June 13, 2011 at 08:08 pm
Why aren't insurance companies protecting patients and refusing to pay these fees?" asked John Phillips, the lead attorney who represented the patients in both cases. Phillips said he is surprised fees haven't sparked litigation in other states. "If insurance companies refused to pay these, the economic incentive would be diminished."
Robert Zirkelbach, a spokesman for America's Health Insurance Plans, the industry trade association, said that although "it's important that patients have information up front" about costs, facility fees have not emerged as an issue for insurers. Young, the plumbing company benefits manager, expects she'll be dealing with them increasingly at her company. She wonders how she'll explain the fees to co-workers, when she doesn't fully understand them. "It's so convoluted," she said. "If I'm confused, how does a normal person figure this out?"
Karen Chadra (Editor) June 14, 2011 at 03:21 am
Ed Scott - your comments are taken directly from a Washington Post article http://www.accessproject.org/adobe/press/Oct6WashPost.pdf
Please attribute if posting from another source.
L Robert July 18, 2011 at 05:41 pm
Hey Joe O'Malley , I guess the intelligent blog that you sent regarding the overcharging for a facility fee and questioning of who is going to pay for the " robotiics in the laboratory ect . ect... " ... by the EMHC CEO 's keynote speaker fit the qualification of inappropriate " BECAUSE " your comment got erased ????? Why did it get erased ??? ... I thought the North Koreans were bad when it came to booting someone off of the web -- but -- BOY , you must have got erased for telling the truth on May 18th , 2011 . I myself , no doubt, will be chastised for mentioning that the Right to FREE SPEECH is an American Right ...In fact one of the most important rights ... And the right to have the health care provider tell us about fees upfront is also part of the transaction between a patient and the hospital , especially when it is a routine office visit and Elmhurst Memorial wants to try to " slip in a facility fee " as an added fee . Well, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Illinois are now looking into my issue with this provider and how they try to code their bill to get the most out of a visit ... We will see how EMHC solves these issues because I believe they are putting me under a lot of stress by having to deal with all of their tactics .. But my voice will be heard through the proper channels without too much effort and EMHC will make it right -- if they really want to be a health care provider! Oh and by the way, my issue I went to see them 4 - unresolved !!
L Robert July 18, 2011 at 05:43 pm
Hey Joe O' Malley , I do have a copy of your - e-mail and now mine too
JRod July 19, 2011 at 04:22 pm
Similar experience. My insurrance cards states $20 copay for a dr. visit, now I am getting fees from both Elmhurst Clinic and Elmhurst Memorial Hospital totalling $65. I am hoping that this will spark a Class Action Law Suit. $65 for a simple dr. visit is crazy.
L Robert August 15, 2011 at 05:32 pm
Well, It is official , I have decided to NO LONGER USE THE SERVICE OF THE ELMHURST MEMORIAL RIP OFFS.. I have taken my business elsewhere -- due to these facility fees ... No one could explain , I complained and spent my time on the phone with Blue Cross of IL and the Elmhurst staff member , who is in charge of answering any questions on this topic --- Yes , they put someone in charge of this to tell you - we will look into it -- we have made a decision - we are sticking you with the FEE... Well , guess what I GOT MINE REVERSED and they tried to hide that too !!!! Dr Pae can be notified that I will no longer need their services and I hope everyone else follows my lead ... GOOD SAM hello --- Elmhurst and their smug answers " GOOD - BYE "
L Robert August 15, 2011 at 05:33 pm
Anyone know a good attorney that wants to push this further !!!
Sam December 27, 2011 at 03:17 pm
My mother went there for an angiogram this august. She fell off the table in such excrusiating pain during the procedure. She died 2 days later. They explained to us she had an anurism but they let her fall. It has been the most horrible thing me and my children are going through. She was 72 and lived with us. She wasn't sick. It has been devastating to deal with. Since then I have spoke with several nurses at elmhurst memorial and they have said they wanted send their enemy there. My children are slowly moving forward, but my world has been turned upside down. My mother was my best friend. :( how do you move forward? Where is the closure?
TFAN May 10, 2012 at 05:27 pm
I am writing because I am extremely frustrated with the new hospital billing situation and the fact that there is now a facility charge on top of your fees. I am also saddened that after being a patient for over 20 years that because of this I am going to be forced to find new doctors as primary care physicians for my family.
The patients did not have a choice in this whole new structure and although we did receive a letter, I do not believe that the actual fee it would amount to was mentioned ($84) and from what I read above it appears everyone's fees are different. Almost looks like it is dependent on how much insurance providers are willing to pay. Regardless of whether my deductible is met or not I find this practice to be unethical. What they are doing is charging their office visit patients to pay for their new hospital. Then they have the audacity to send me letters asking for donations. If I had millions (billions) this would be the last place I would donate to. This sickens me and someone in power needs to fight for our rights. Shame on the doctors who agreed to stay on and be part of this practice.
TFAN May 10, 2012 at 05:48 pm
To say that we are not being charged anymore than in the past and that it is now only separated is an outright LIE. I have bills prior to the policy being implemented and the amounts that were charged then are $84 less. Now we are being charged double and to make matters worse insurance companies put this fee towards the deductible so not only is it more money for ins. to pay but also more money out of our pockets. A trip to the doctors office should cost me $25. It now cost me $60. Put an end to this thievery!!
Lying hospital September 2, 2012 at 10:52 pm
This article is a joke. Leah Gleason, you got played. If you used to just pay your copayment, and now you're paying more than just your copayment, then that's a new fee any way out slice it. New billing practice, my rear.
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