Prairie Path Underpass on Elmhurst's Capital Project Wish List
St. Charles Road work, more money for street repaving also part of five-year plan.
The continual pursuit of grant funds for major capital projects by the city of Elmhurst could result in sending the Prairie Path under York Road.
City Manager Jim Grabowski presented the project as part of the five-year capital plan Monday night, and city staff would like to begin engineering work.
Public Works Director Mike Hughes explained that a change in state law requiring cars to stop for pedestrians means that runners and cyclists no longer wait for the cars on York to pass before crossing the busy road.
While recent road work on York allowed the city to install more signage at the crossing, Hughes and Grabowski said it was time to separate the crossings in a more permanent and safer way.
The city has secured about $300,000 in grants for engineering studies, said Grabowski, adding there is a potential to get up to $1.76 million in grant funds. The city would contribute about $1.4 million to the project.
Some aldermen expressed surprise that such a large project was in the city’s sights. Public Safety Committee Vice Chairman and 1st Ward Alderman Paula Pezza wondered why the idea had not yet come before her committee. Interim Mayor and 5th Ward Alderman Scott Levin said the underpass plans would likely need to be looked at by both the Public Works and the Public Safety committees.
Third Ward Alderman Mike Bram asked why this project had surfaced now when so many other projects, including stormwater mitigation, loomed ahead.
Fifth Ward Alderman Chris Healy, however, said the Prairie Path grade separation had been talked about—and requested by residents—for years.
Stormwater work also is in the five-year plan, as city staff look to begin work on the redirection of water in the southwest part of the city to a new detention tank at the wastewater treatment plant.
Along with moving $500,000 into the capital fund from the general fund, which should give the city leeway to repave a few more miles of road in 2013, the city plans to spend $580,000 to resurface St. Charles Road from the railroad crossing near York High School to Route 83. More than $350,000 of this project will come from grant funding.
Bram and Pezza also have asked the city to look at installing porous paver bricks when city-owned parking lots are reconstructed. Grabowski and Hughes reported the costs of doing so are still quite high, however. Using pavers at the City Hall parking lot, which is next on the list for repaving, would cost about $650,000 because of the need to construct underground storage on the site, as well as new curbs and gutters. As currently planned, the City Hall lot only needs asphalt work at a cost of about $35,000, Hughes reported.
Details about each project in the 2013 capital budget are available on the city’s website. The public hearing for the budget will be held in March, with budget adoption set for the April 1 City Council meeting.
Because the city is moving to a calendar-year fiscal year, the 2013 budget will only cover eight months, from May to December. The 2014 budget will then begin the first full fiscal year of the new system.
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5DecadesInElmhurs
6:36 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
Instead of wasting 1.5 million on an underpass, how about routing path traffic to the traffic signals at York & Vallette. Two $ 100.00 signs should cover that cost.
D L
10:34 pm on Tuesday, January 8, 2013
I tend to agree 5D. At least look at as many possible alternatives to solve this issue. To spend 1.5 million is absolutely insane in today's economy. We tax payers also can't handle any new financial burdens.
Stewart Levine
7:24 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
a time when most americans are broke this type of pork barrel spending is ridiculous, this city manager position is a joke, whoever thought of the idea of having a "city manager" must have come from stalinist russia, elmhurst property taxes are outrageous and there are tons of home burglaries...
then you have to worry about some guy like this who wants to spend a couple of million dollars so people dont have to stop for a second to cross the street. give me a freakin' break
D L
7:56 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Well said SL. This project needs to just 'go away". Let's not insult Elmhurst's residents intelligence any further, or their tax rates !!!
Peggy Graham
8:25 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
How about launching an educational campaign for cyclists/runners outlining THEIR responsibility to stop and look before they proceed. This "law" does not mean they have the right of way - it means, if they are already in the street the cars must stop (which is only common sense). There are many considerate cyclists and runners out there and the others are giving them a bad name. We have signs for the cars - why not for the prairie path users?
bill trudeau
9:30 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
We do. At every intersection across Elmhurst the path users have a stop sign. There should be no issue at all with this at York, because the path users have a stop sign and the vehicular traffic doesn't. The only way for anyone on the path to have an issue with York traffic requires them to have ignored their stop sign.
john appleton
9:13 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
disagree with most all of the above comments. the path gets heavy, heavy usage and this project would be a community asset and an excellent investment.
Daniel Caudy
9:37 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
if you total up all the money in this article, this underpass could cost upwards of three million dollars...not economically feasible in these times. And when the city hall parking lot is repaved, I hope they also re-engineer it. The present layout must have been done by a first year engineering student, the lot circulation does not work and the turning radii are too tight. The position of the drop off mail box is crazy.
NOT Mayor Gutenkauf
11:02 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Underpasses are for sissies. I like to try and mow down these health freaks as they blindly cross York Road. It's a great stress reliever for me. I agree, we should redo the parking lot at City Hall. Instead of new pavers, how about a rack for torturing any residents who cross my path?
Robert Honig
11:54 am on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
The Prairie Path is a recreational asset for Elmhurst residents, and its use should be encouraged. How nice it would be to have an underpass, so that parents could have children riding their bikes on this green area without fear of York Street traffic. The cost of $1.5 Million would be substantial, but not monumental With 40,000 residents, that comes out to about $37.50 per resident.
Steve
1:11 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I have said this on many Patch articles. No matter what your position is I would recommend you voice it at the next council meeting during the public forum.
Doremus Jessup
1:27 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
I like the idea of the underpass for these reasons. Every time a car has to stop for a person at the P.P. they are using more gas than they would had they not had to stop. Lombard is almost done with their overpass over St. Charles, coupled with an underpass on York and you might bust a few more people out of their cars and maybe they would ride their bikes to work. While driving I see people stopping for absolutely no one at the P.P., this would stop if there was an under pass. My opinion is to build the underpass, max out any grants available, and bite the bullet.
5DecadesInElmhurs
4:02 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
If (big 'if") the York PP is such a problem... Why throw money at the problem? Buy a four used stop signs and make the crossing a four way stop. If you really want to spend money, do a underpass at Butterfield and Kirk (3 dead, hit and run, unsolved).
5DecadesInElmhurs
4:13 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Lexington and York used to be a possible location until Yorkfield School was shut down. Three dead there. I also remember the kid that was killed at Van Buren and York; another potential underpass.
5DecadesInElmhurs
4:16 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Let us also remember that a alderman proposed a underpass/overpass/traffic signal, at Cedar & Butterfield. Since the Park District chose to not purchase any of the Yorkfield School properties, there are no public parks south of Butterfield. There used to be a traffic signal at Butterfield & Colfax, but the City (in its infinite wisdom) removed that modestly priced device.
5DecadesInElmhurs
4:05 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Let's also keep in mind that certain real estate interests want to reconfigure the York-Seminole-South Street intersection. That "traffic problem" will supposedly be solved by the taking of land from the park. Is it just possible that the PP/York "problem" is just a trial balloon for a much larger project?
5DecadesInElmhurs
4:11 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
Also, does anyone remember all the talk about the great need for an underpass in front of York High School? Well meaning people have a great knack for spending other peoples money, on spurious problems. No amount of money will prevent an idiot from jumping a curb anywhere in town. How about lowering all Elmhurst speed limits to 10 MPH? A couple dozen cheap signs will take care of that. Hell, I'd be glad to paint over the old signs.....
Jim Court
10:43 pm on Wednesday, January 9, 2013
A very quick thought but what about an overpass with space for electronic signage that could announce community events and advertising sold to offset costs.
You take the low way and I'll take the high way.......
Peggy Suratt
8:59 am on Thursday, January 10, 2013
@ jc: this is your best idea yet; overpasses are way more palatable for a variety of reasons. first and foremost, from a safety standpoint, no one wants to enter an underpass when it's dark out (and yes, many of us use the prairie path after dusk). second, as jc said, this can also be used to advertise community events much like the overpass @ palmer drive. third, and most importantly, an overpass is much cheaper to build because there is very little, if any, excavation required. however, in the final analysis, i still agree with 5decades in that you have to address needs before you spend money on wants.
Stewart Levine
5:49 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
How about you stand at the intersection of route 83 and north avenue and wear a yellow vest and take donations for your cause, rather than try and steal my hard earned money from me through strong armed robbery taxation, for your project that I will never use.
if your kid can't cross the street he shouldn't be riding a bike.
if any biker wants to ride his bike directly into my car trying to collect insurance without looking, it's a good thing ObamieCommieCare is around after all so to pay for his new neck brace. Because the law clearly says they need to yield to traffic as well.
Stewart Levine
5:52 am on Wednesday, January 16, 2013
We need to have a ban on any renters in elmhurst being able to vote for property tax increases as well, anyone agree?
this is how this kind of stuff gets started, its two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.