Nearly 60 Percent of Students at Conrad Fischer Are Living in Poverty, New Figures Show
Districtwide, poverty is at 13.5 percent, superintendent says. When a child enters the district in poverty, teachers must bridge the gap.
It can be hard enough to teach a room full of wiggly elementary school students. But if those kids come to school without proper school supplies, if they haven't had the benefit of preschool or been exposed to books in the home, or if they can't read English, their path to achievement is a lot steeper.
When one thinks of Elmhurst District 205—or Elmhurst in general—poverty is not something that comes to mind. But some sobering statistics shared at Tuesday's District 205 School Board meeting indicate a dramatic increase at Conrad Fischer School of students living in poverty.
In the last year, out of Fischer's nearly 500 students, the number of those living in poverty increased from 39 percent to 57 percent of the student population. Five years ago, it was 19 percent.
The district determines the number of students living in poverty by looking at the number of students in the free or reduced lunch program. And while Fischer clearly has the largest population of poverty-level families in the district, Superintendent David Pruneau pointed out that poverty is spreading.
"Poverty is increasing pretty dramatically districtwide, up to 13.5 percent and moving forward," he said. "We have a lot of students, a lot of parents in need."
According to the 2012-13 budget approved by School Board members Tuesday, District 205 receives about $430,000 in Title I funds for low-income students at Fischer and Churchville Middle School, the district's only Title I-eligible schools.
Title I was first developed as part of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965. The legislation aims to narrow the achievement gap by allowing all students, regardless of income, the same shot at a quality education. The 2001 No Child Left Behind Act reauthorizes the ESEA.
Currently, Title I funds can be spent only on those children specifically targeted as living in poverty. But since Fischer has far surpassed the Act's threshold of 40 percent of its student population in poverty, the district can petition to use Title I funds for all students attending the school.
Assistant Superintendent for Curriculum Charles Johns told the School Board that if the schoolwide model is approved, all students at Fischer will benefit.
"When you get to a critical mass of poverty in a school, even students who are not from an impoverished background still need support," he said. "The whole school has a degree of need."
The federal government doesn't exactly make it easy to convert from a targeted model to a schoolwide model, and Fischer Principal Jane Bailey and her staff have been hard at work for a year gathering data to outline the learning needs of students, as well as a plan of action.
The plan leans heavily on parent participation, a broad range of academic interventions and infusion of technology—all things that already are being implemented at Fischer.
The first step to conversion to a schoolwide model is board approval, Johns said, and the board unanimously approved the measure Tuesday. Board member Maria Hirsch took the opportunity to point out the special challenges teachers at Fischer face.
The majority of students in District 205 have support from home and extended family, strong language and conversational skills, early childhood education and a "solid base" from which they are starting their education—"so many things many of us take for granted," she said.
But the majority of students at Fischer come from a different environment, she said.
"Not only are we asking Fischer staff to help (students) meet typical growth that is expected of our high-achieving school district … we also are asking them to make up for and fill in the gaps of these students that don't have that foundation coming to us," she said. "Not only do we have a building where almost 60 percent of the students come from a background that is not as solid as the rest of our buildings, but we also are holding (teachers) to very high expectations."
Fischer staff has been committed to academic intervention. They have provided free school supplies and backpacks to students, free physicals to families and a strong summer school program. School Board member John McDonough was the board's liaison to Fischer last year.
"I was invited to witness all the school planning," he said. "I saw a group of passionate professionals, really engaged people who are there with a calling to give that little bit extra the school might need. It was a tribute to the leadership of Jane Bailey and all the teachers there, and the community members who were participating—courageous, active individuals.
"It was really a great experience. I left the session moved that day."
D205 Parent
9:00 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
If you have an English speaking student at Conrad Fischer, what about them? The main focus for the principal is the non-English speaking students and the others just get left behind. I know this from experience with my own children. Also, most of these students are coming from the apartments across from Dominicks in Bensenville. A part of Addison is also included in Conrad Fischer. How would anyone feel if there English speaking child came home with homework that is only in Spanish? That's what has happened to my children. I would have to send it back and write to please send the English version home for my child. Also when my child was in kindergarten the teacher was bilingual and was teaching them in Spanish. I brought my concerns to the principal and Superintendent and nothing was done. The kindergarten curriculum does not have Spanish in it for any Elmhurst School. I did not attend the last PTA meeting, but have heard that 57 percent of the students did not have adequate scores on the isat's and will be given vouchers to attend any school in Elmhurst of their choice. Again, do not know if this is definitely true or not, just what I had heard. If you do not have an English speaking child at Conrad Fischer, you would not understand the frustration of being discriminated against in a school. We are the taxpayers, not the takers. The principal received a $10,000 raise this past year. Where is this Title-I government money going? To the kids, or to her?
Fischer Parent
7:38 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I understand your frustration and concern. As a former Fischer student, longtime resident and current parent I worry about the future of the school – but the principal is not to blame. The changes implemented this year are being orchestrated by Karen Mulattieri, the ELL Coordinator brought in by the district. Karen formerly worked in the Cicero School System and is implementing policies she oversaw there. We cannot expect that those same policies would work in Elmhurst or are even appropriate to implement at Fischer.
Ken
9:06 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I live near Conrad Fisher. This doesn't surprise me one bit. Section 8 residents are proliferating the area. An illegal immigrant with four uncontrolled kids was recently 'renting' the house behind me. (Thank God they're gone).
I bet most of those 60% are from homes with no father and a mother who expects society to take care of her kids.
The real losers at Fisher are the kids who are held back from advancing because the teachers have to spend more time with those who are grades behind the others.
Too bad this school has to taken all the children of illegal immigrants living in south Bensenville.
North Side
9:43 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Ken you're about as ignorant as they come!! I'm a Section 8 voucher holder and here's a shocker...I was BORN & RAISED in Elmhurst! I am well spoken, and my children are well behaved...section 8 doesn't always mean immigrants & non english speaking families!! I'm a SINGLE MOTHER with 2 jobs and nobody is raising my kids except for ME...oh and I'm white, shocked???
Ken
10:54 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Thanks for showing your 'ignorance' by attacking rather than having an open dialogue.
I did not state that all Section 8 vouchers are illegal immigrants. The two can be one and the same but in a majority of cases they are not. Irregardless they are both a social problem that plays havoc on our neighborhoods and schools. How do you explain the 40% rise in 5 years of the poverty rate at Fisher and the free fall drop in the ISAT over that same period of time? The two are correlated.
BTW
You state that 'nobody is raising my kids except for ME'. Does that mean your kids aren't getting free breakfast and lunch at the school? That you don't need the Section 8 voucher to take care of them?
Just sayin...
10:58 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Welcome to the real world, where all children are created equal. Elmhurst kids are no different from Bensenville kids, children on section 8 or any other minority. The only guarantee is that your Children will grow up as misguided and narrow-minded as you are. Be Gone. Back to Stepford with you!
Ken
12:44 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
If there is 'no difference' then how do you explain the discrepancy in test scores between Fisher and the other Elmhurst elementary schools?
Yes, everyone is created equal but not everyone is raised equally or taught the same values. This is why some areas have high crime and murder rates and others do not.
Ralph
11:22 am on Thursday, September 27, 2012
"But the majority of students at Fischer come from a different environment, she said."
Does that environment include students from OUT OF DISTRICT? How come Lincoln and Bryan do not have that problem?
Tony H
12:13 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
District 205 somehow has to make sure that everyone that goes to a district 205 school, is within the district boundries. There was a D 205 report a week or so ago that showed the increased enrollments, and Conrad had an increase of 34 students. Seems high, when there are not that many new homes in that area. Are some students just using an address of a relative?
Also, call me whatever, but classes should be taught in English, homework should be written in English. When I when to high school, some 25 years ago, there were ESL classes, but that was it, English was the language for the main classes.
We moved to Elmhurst 20 years ago, we were lucky that we bought south of North Avenue, because when you compare the middle schools now, they are not on the same level, based on test scores and other ways to measure, Churchville does not compare to Sandburg
D205 Parent
1:56 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I do believe that many of these families do not live within district 205. I see many different city stickers on cars while picking up my children at Conrad Fischer. I know of an English speaking family that had to pay the district around $15,000 because they were in the school and not living within the district, even though they were building within the boundaries of district 205. I do not believe these families are being investigated because if the level of free lunch drops below 40 percent then the district will lose $430,000 as you can see in the article. Last year the principal also had parents come in and make the morning announcements in Spanish. How well would this go over in the other 7 Elmhurst elementary schools? I also bought my house 20 years ago, but unfortunately not on the south side of Crestview. Since this principal has come in and catered to the non-English speaking families, it has brought our house prices down and we cannot afford to move. A friend of mine tried to sell her house and they dropped the price 3 times and still could not sell. The realtor told her it's because the school is not good. English is the language in all of the other schools in Elmhurst. They say that all children should have the same level of Education. Well my children at Fischer are not receiving the same level of education as the children at Lincoln. They should make Fischer a Spanish School and let the English Speaking taxpaying families have free choice.
D205 Parent
2:11 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
There are 150 students at Fischer eating free breakfast right now. In the past all children have been entering the school approximately 15 minutes prior to the start of school. Because of the free breakfast this was changed and the taxpayers children would have to stand outside until 5 minutes before the bell about 2 feet away from moving cars while the teachers had their backs to them. Any child could have been pushed into a moving car and seriously injured or worse. After many complaints, this was changed back to letting our children inside. Why should my children have to stand outside and freeze because I can afford to feed them. Now these families are receiving free daycare, free breakfast, free lunch and a link card with money on it for anything they want. They can get cash with the link card to buy cigarettes and alcohol. Why do they need the link card when the school is paying for 2 of their meals? I've seen many families at stores use the link card and then get into a brand new car. How do they afford that? I don't have a new car. The district said that they paid out $14,000 last year for students to have free orchestra/band lessons, but if can't afford it for my child are they going to pay? I doubt it!!!
elmhurst resident
12:00 pm on Tuesday, December 18, 2012
150 try 200+ eating FREE breakfast and lunch and getting many more free things at our expense
D205 Parent
2:47 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Just so everyone understands how much the non-English speaking families are catered to I will give you the breakdown of classes at Fischer. Kindergarten has only 1 half day English Speaking class, 2 Spanish- 1st grade has 1 English, 3 Spanish- 2nd grade 2 English, 1 Spanish-3rd grade 3 English, 1 Spanish, 4th and 5th only English. There is also a Spanish PTA that the principal has created herself. The regular PTA also has a bilingual president that claims to live with her mother in Addison and no one seems to know if she really lives in the district. The Spanish PTA complains that the Science Olympiad needs to be in Spanish also. Why should we cater to them? They came to this country and should learn our language, not the other way around. I don't believe if I moved to Mexico that my kids would get an English speaking class,or free anything!!
Steve
4:17 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
If people are concerned with Fischer school then take the concerns to the school board meetings. I don't have the answers to all of the above concerns since I don't know enough about what is going on at Fischer first hand.
If enough people go to the school board meetings and voice their concerns then there will be a chance of change/improvement at the school. Remember, this is an election year (4/13).
YK
4:51 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
It has been. Letters have been sent, it's been brought up for a few years now. The problem is the superintendent and the principal won't do anything about it.
Fischer Parent
8:19 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
I agree with you Steve, it is important that Fischer parents get involved and take their concerns to the Board. My biggest concern is the segregated classrooms that are being created this year (Mulattierri's policies). One of the things that made Fischer special was it's diversity and sense of community. This is being destroyed by the implementation of bilingual classrooms. The best way to learn English is to be immersed in the language. I have so many friends who went abroad to get immersed in a new language, whether that was Spanish, French or German. Why would we prevent English as a Second Language Students from being immersed in the language of this country, versus regulated to a Spanish speaking classroom. Rather than investing in bilingual classrooms, why wouldn't we invest in educational resources for all students. Today the general education classrooms at Fischer have the highest student to teacher ratios. In the general education classrooms you see ratios of 1 teacher to 28 or more, in the bilingual classrooms there are classrooms that have 16 kids to 1 teacher or less. How is that fair to all students!
Kathleen Sullivan
7:24 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
YSET has been created to help families of high school students in Elmhurst. If residents want to help poverty-stricken families in Elmhurst - what can be done? Karen, could you do a feature on that...I know a big food drive is upcoming for Thanksgiving. The Dan Gibbons Turkey Trot will benefit many local charities....how? What else is there? Thanks!
D205 Parent
7:29 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
We had brought our concerns to a school board member in 2009 and she told us to stop emailing her. I have emailed the superintendent numerous times, tried to set up a meeting and do not receive a response by phone or email. We've had several children seriously hurt while at school and parents have not received phone calls to say they were injured. The most recent was a child running into the metal corner of a chalk board. They put a band aid on the cut and sent her home without calling a parent. That night she was in the emergency room getting stitches. A child broke her toe and was sent to a picnic without her shoe on, a child sprained his ankle and was handed an ice pack by the principal and no one even looked at it or called the parents. He walked on it for 2 and a half hours during school and then had to wear a cast for 10 days. We had a child slip on ice during recess and break her 2 permanent front teeth and the principal claims there was no ice or snow on the playground equipment, there are pictures to prove otherwise. Two letters were found in classrooms that were threats against other students and teachers. A child was chased down at recess, tackled, laid on top of and the other child tried to kiss her. These are some of the incidents that I know of that have occurred while Jane Bailey has been principal of the school. No accountability for any actions, that is the Jane Bailey approach and her salary is $108,000! Big waste of tax money!
Kathy
8:37 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
D205 parent: please stop school bashing. Most of your facts are wrong and I would spend the time pointing them out, but my guess is you'd prefer to believe the lies.
D205 Parent
8:40 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
You obviously do not have a child at Fischer or you would know everything I have said are true facts.
Fischer Parent
9:50 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
D205, I do have students at Fischer today. We are so fortunate to have such an amazing and committed teaching staff and principal. I will take a few minutes to state some facts, as they are important and cannot be forgotten. While this year's ISAT results are not where I would like them to be, that does not take away from the achievement that Ms. Bailey and her staff have led. In 2002, 60% of students at Fischer met or exceeded ISAT state standards. Today 90.4% of students meet or exceed ISAT State Standards. In the period from 2009 to 2011, Ms. Bailey and her team raised scores from 80% to 90% meeting or exceeding state standards, while dealing with a demographic of rising student poverty. In the same period of time student poverty rates increased from 23% to almost 60%. While testing is not everything, you can’t ignore the positive results Fischer’s staff has achieved. Now if only we can focus on getting Mulattieri’s policies out of the school ,we would be in a place to continue to see this type of improvement.
G & T
8:43 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
D205 Parent, your posts are full of inaccurate statements. For example, your classroom information in terms of the number of "Spanish" classrooms are flat out wrong. I have a hard time believing the validity of all your other statements when I know for certain that several of your claims are false. And the fact that you're suggesting that Jane Bailey actually wants these students from impoverished homes to attend Fischer so that she can gain financially from it or even that Fischer could gain financially from it is just plain stupid. I'm sorry, I can't sit back and read this garbage without saying something.
D205 Parent
8:49 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Again you obviously do not know Jane Bailey and do not have children at Fischer. The email that I have showing the number of Spanish classrooms came in an email from Jane Bailey. Here ya go:May 18, 20
Looking Ahead
Change is an inevitable part of personal and professional growth. In the case of school improvement at Fischer the change effort has always been intentional and designed with increased student achievement as the desired outcome of all decisions. John F. Kennedy once said, “Change is the law of life. And those who look only to the past or present are certain to miss the future.” Fischer is no exception. As we move closer to compliance with Illinois State law related to bilingual education, several of our staff assignments are changing. In order to keep our parents informed, below you will find teacher assignments for the 2012-2013 school year.
Kindergarten
Ms. Valadez - Bilingual - Full Day
Mrs. Cortez - At-Risk - Full Day
Mrs. Olague - General Ed - Half Day
Mrs. Olague - Bilingual - Half Day
1st Grade
TBA - Bilingual
Mrs. Heintz - Bilingual
Mrs. Arnold - ESL
Mrs. Gabelman
2nd Grade
Mrs. Rowland - Bilingual
Mrs. Marcellus
Mrs. Thompson
3rd Grade
TBA - Bilingual
Mrs. Raney
Miss Wedell
Miss Wu
4th Grade
Miss Bartolai
Mrs. Brown
Mr. Cultra
Mrs. DiPaolo
5th Grade
Mrs. Curcio
Miss Kantner
Mrs. Moll
Mrs. Noland
Art - Mrs. Calderisi & Ms. Skinner
G & T
9:41 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
At Risk and ESL does not mean the class is taught in Spanish as you inferred from your earlier comments. Those classrooms are not instructed in Spanish. They are taught in English and supported with ESL strategies that assist with building background knowledge, vocabulary, and comprehension-all done in English. They are not taught in Spanish. Once again, your comments were not accurate.
Sarah Garcia
10:24 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
EXACTLY! Thank you for pointing out the inaccuracies in the statement above. At Risk and ESL classes are taught IN ENGLISH!
Sarah Garcia
10:27 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
Also, please understand that what is going on this year is NOT Ms. Bailey's policies or ideas. You need to direct your comments and anger to Karen Mulattieri. All Conrad Fischer parents, or future Conrad Fischer parents need to start attending the Curriculum and Instruction meetings for the Board of Education. If e-mails and phone calls aren't working, perhaps complaining in person will.
Bee
11:51 pm on Thursday, September 27, 2012
There has been a great deal of concern regarding Spanish speaking students. While that is a valid concern, let's also remember that there are many children from other countries at Fischer as well. If you are a part of the Fischer community you may have attened Heritage Night. This event was so well received that there were many cultures represented. There are students at Fischer from Poland, India, Italy, Albania,Turkey, China, Mexico, just to name a few. Students will continue to filter into all D205 schools with different cultural backgrounds and different languages. ESL is not Spanish instruction. It is instruction in English as a Second Language. Strategies are used to support students who are in the process of acquiring English. This problem WILL NOT go away and will continue to increase across the country. We need to find solutions and we need to support.students and staff Instead of complaining, To those complaining I would suggest you use your time to volunteer at Fischer and you will see what a difference you can make in the life of a child. I have done so and cannot believe how rewarding the experience has been. There is no greater reward than the smile on their faces!
D205 Parent
8:43 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Unfortunately I cannot volunteer during the school day, I have to go to work and support my children.
concerned citizen
5:37 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Just some facts sprinkled with a little commentary:
*Bilingual laws in the State of Illinois are some of the strictest in the country (One of only a few that still require it. Even Texas is considering ending the mandate). The fear of losing funding drives the push for bilingual and segregated classrooms. The state legislature is where to start to change this if you are unhappy.
*If you check the Illinois Report Card website, you will see that Fischer has higher test scores than most schools with similar demographics. http://iirc.niu.edu/
*Title I funds do NOT pay the principal's salary. It could fund additional teachers if the district decides to use if for that purpose. She does not have any benefit at all for gaining Title I status; it is just a lot of extra work that no other principal in the district has to do.
*There have been meetings at the school informing the community about the bilingual law and programs, and as others have said, board meetings for Curriculum and Instruction. Attend them. Educate yourself and let your voice be heard.
*Parents are a child's first teacher. I can only hope that D205 parent is not teaching her children the hate that spills from her posts. Fischer is a diverse community that reflects the real world. That is an enrichment to a child's education, not a curse.
USA
6:51 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Bottom line is the Fischer students do not receive the same level of education as the other grade schools in Elmhurst and ENGLISH is the only language that should be spoken in our schools! ONE NATION UNDER GOD! AMEN
MaryAnn Kalis
8:32 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
The goal of all schools is to raise the achievement of their students, no matter what their level of learning is when they enter. It is a fact that some children speak another language or live in poverty. They did not choose to be in a situation where they don't understand the language or live in a family where the income doesn't cover all expenses. Some schools serve more of these students than others, and they must adhere to state laws governing these (serving free meals, offering transitional bilingual classes).While some may believe it's better to teach non-English speakers in an English-only classroom, that is not the law. The school and district are simply following state law: http://law.justia.com/codes/illinois/2010/chapter105/010500050HArt_14C.html
Karen Chadra
8:52 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Thank you, Mary Ann. Very well said.
Fischer Parent
9:14 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
MaryAnn, Bee, Sarah, and concerned citizen thank you for your thoughtful comments on this issue and elevating the level of comments and discussions. I do believe we need to provide language support and be in compliance, my issue is in how we do this. I am not an expert in the law, but there has to be a way to provide the needed support without segregating the classrooms. Unfortunately, the bilingual classrooms will be made up entirely of Latino/hispanic children and the non bilingual classrooms will look very different. Your first friends are those in your classroom, your early friends also become your friends for life. By separating children, we miss a great opportunity for children to learn from each other, to learn about each others culture, and embracing differences. By segregating classrooms, we inadvertently create divisions and lack of understanding. Lack of understanding and relationships creates a culture of us versus them, of stereotypes and biases. If you recall lessons from the brown eye/blue eye classroom experiments conducted by a teacher in Iowa it wasn't very hard for stereotypes and divisive behavior to arise in the classroom when childern were treated differently based on the color of their eyes. www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/divided/ . There has to be a better way to be in compliant and retain a sense of community, versus division.
Dan
9:27 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
This just reinforces the fact that at the very same time local funding of education through property taxes has increased with the state paying a smaller share every year the schools face ever increasing state mandates. What ever happen to local funding results in increased local control?
Fischer Parent
9:35 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Elmhurst Mom, I was raised in Elmhurst and attended Conrad, Churchville, York. I attended the gifted programs, received enough AP credit to graduate from college a year early and earned my Masters from the University of Illinois. In addition, I have had a successful career as a corporate executive, that has allowed me to provide very well for my family. I never attended a bilingual program. My siblings and husband are teachers. My first language was Spanish. My parents were immigrants to this country. My father bought a house in Elmhurst because of the quality of the schools. My immediate and extended family all made it a priority to learn English and advance their careers in the United States. To assume that most families haven't taken the time to learn Spanish is a gross overgeneralization. I personally don't believe we should have to provide instruction in Spanish, but we do have to provide support for all children to learn. Yes there are some families that have not learned English, perhaps they have just recently arrived here and are in the process, perhaps some choose to not learn. But to say 70% haven't is ridiculous
Fischer Parent
9:46 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Elmhurst Mom- I would also be very angry if my child was placed in an ESL classroom for reading support, since he wasn't an English as a Second Language student. This is the issue with the new policies in place in school. My child had reading issues in 1st grade at Fischer and due to early intervention by Fischer's teaching staff and small group instruction, he is now reading at or above grade level. This would not have happened if he was placed in an ESL classroom, especially since his English is much better than his Spanish. I encourage parents to attend the Bilingual Parents Bilingual Parent Advisory Committee on Tuesday, October 2 at Fischer. I am going, even though my children are not in bilingual education, as what happens with these progams will affect the quality of instruction and climate for the entire school.
Floyd
10:29 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
My Grandfather built his house here North of 290, back in the 1940's. Not only do I carry his name but I also hold his values, the same values that helped found this town.
I attended CF & all 3 of my daughters have attended CF, over the last 15 yrs up to this currant year. Needless to say our school has seen a hoard of change over those years, including 3 principals.
In my opinion Principal Jane Bailey, is A great fit for our diverse community, & one of the best things our school has seen this decade .
Take a look at the difference in school ethnicity & ISAT scores across Elmhurst.
http://www.zillow.com/local-info/IL-Elmhurst-schools/r_4568/
CF, 46.%w,35.6%h,13.4%a,5.%b
Emerson,81%w,8.6%h,6.4%a,4.%b
Field,85.4%w,4.2%h,8.1%a,2.2%b
Hawthorne,93.8%w,1.9%h,2.4%a,1.9%b
Edison,92.4%w,3.3%h,4.2%a,0.0%b
Lincoln,96.7%w,1.2%h,1.6%a,0.4%b
Jefferson,95.7%w,1.6%h,1.3%a,1.3%b
Jackson,89.3%w,3.3%h,4.7%a,2.1%b
I could have posted the middle schools & if your interested please look @ the site & you'll see Churchvill, is just as lopsided as CF, is to the rest of Elmhurst.
The Teachers&Staff @ CF do not control from what financial or ethnic background our students come from. Needless to say if CF, had not added the Spanish curriculum to the class room, our ISAT scores would be MUCH lower.
Thank You Principle Jane Bailey, w/o you,Mr Navaro, & other Teachers
& staff, it would be our Students that fail.
Fischer Parent
11:32 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Floyd, thanks for your supportive comments. The bilingual classrooms were added this year. The great results you refer to were driven without this year's policy. I just dont want the district to break what is not broken. Bailey and her staff are the reason for the success! They need the freedom to do what is best for the school and not be held to the district's ELL coordinator's policies. Spanish at Fischer is not a bad thing, in fact being exposed to many languages is great for our children, it's creating segregated classrooms that is bad for society and school culture.
D205 Parent
11:40 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Many languages, not just one!
D205 Parent
11:43 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Excuse me not just one other language. There are many different languages in the world and Fischer has many children of different ethnic backgrounds: Polish, Greek, Norwegian, Swedish, Bosnian, etc.
Ken
12:49 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Many languages but only bilingual in Spanish.
Fischer Parent
11:34 am on Friday, September 28, 2012
Let me clarify, the addition of bilingual classrooms in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd are new this year. I believe we have had a bilingual kindergarten in the past.
D205 Parent
1:10 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Yes, Ken only Spanish. I went on a field trip with a class from Fischer last year. They separated the kids into groups of 4. Each group had a parent chaperon. One group consisted of a Hispanic parent, 2 Hispanic children and 2 English speaking children. The parent spoke both Spanish and English, but chose to speak Spanish during this trip. The English children in her group did not speak Spanish only English. The parent speaks English perfectly fine, but chose to speak Spanish. Everyone seems to be afraid to tell parents to speak English because they might feel discriminated against. How would she feel if her Hispanic child was put on a field trip with a Polish speaking parent? I believe she would say something and not be happy. Weren't these English speaking children discriminated against? Some people are bilingual and speak many languages including English. When choosing a language to speak during school, it should be English like the other 7 grade schools in Elmhurst.
Vincent Russell
1:20 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Shame on all of you if you are of Irish, Italian, German, etc., decent. This is the EXACT same discrimination and predjudice that our great grandparents faced when they arrived in this country. Public schools were inadequately prepared for the immigrants so many went to Catholic schools.
These Mexican immigrants are working their tales off because they know what is ahead. It is not a life of food stamps, but a life of prosperity that we promise if you work hard. It is not their fault the that government and schools got involved in the social welfare sytems that the government had no right to get involved in the first place.
Teach in English or teach in Spanish but teach and learn!
Fischer Parent
2:09 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Great point Vincent!
Ralph
2:56 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
Yes, illegal immigration needs to be rewarded. Perhaps that is why our parents struggled so hard. What were they thinking?
Ken
9:42 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
But the past generations weren't catered to with special classes, voting ballots, commercials, TV programs, Dial 1 for Spanish, etc. like these are. Plus Catholic schools didn't teach bilingual classes either.
End Hate
5:14 pm on Friday, September 28, 2012
I am appalled by the bigotry that is being spread on these comments. In the public schools we teach all children. No matter their gender, race, socioeconomic status, educational abilities. We pride ourselves on doing what is best for each and every child, not just a select few. If you do not wish or your child to be in an environment like that you can choose to send your child to a school where they hand select and don't allow certain children. There are quite a few options in the area. Pull your kids out and stop torturing yourself, your children, and the staff. Don't wait to get your "government handout" in the form of a school voucher.
Independence666
10:33 am on Saturday, September 29, 2012
What the............. The majority of kids attending one of our Elmhurst schools are now living in poverty? THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!! And it is one more piece of hard evidence which proves that the Obama administration is leading this country into the toilet. If the American people are foolish enough to vote this turkey back into office for another four years, we truly deserve all of the continued pain he will bring.
MR. O HAS GOT TO GO!!!!!
D205 Parent
9:19 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Lastly, this is not about bigotry or racial hate. It's about our children receiving the same education as the other grade schools in Elmhurst. Receiving the proper help when needed. If you focus on one other languae, you will need to focus on them all at all of the schools not just one. If that is done, then we will have to waste a half hour of valuable learning time listening to the morning announcements in 10+ languages. It should be one language, one community, United, not divided. Thank you!
Independence666
9:33 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
I agree with you 100% Parent! These kids will have little chance of succeeding here in this country unless they can communicate fluently in English. If they cannot or will not use English, they will surely end up on the welfare dole, and the Lord knows that we don't need anymore of that in this country.
Resident and Tax Payer
10:31 am on Sunday, September 30, 2012
"If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime."
mary uher
4:39 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Then teach the man to fish - idiot. Why are we trying for a grant for bike racks? These kids need our help.
USA
5:33 pm on Sunday, September 30, 2012
Government assistance is supposed to be temporary, not a way of life!!!
ABC123
11:08 am on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I found an article about this type of set-up in the Naperville schools. I have a friend in Naperville who put her son's name in a lottery to get into this Spanish Immersion class and was thrilled when he was chosen - 14 Spanish speaking, 14 English speaking students. From the article, it sounds like that district is now offering the program at 5 of the 14 elementary schools and there is a wait list at all 5 schools. Maybe 205 is behind the trend by only having this program at one school.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-07-17/news/chi-naperville-district-203-language-immersion-20120717_1_language-immersion-naperville-schools-elementary-schools
BTW I.Love.Elmhurst - I'm a Field parent and we only have one, old Smart Board at our school. C.F. Is not the only one.
Fischer Parent
5:38 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
It would be great if we had language immersion programs that would benefit the entire school and help children become fluent in more than one language. Unfortunately that is not what is being offered at Conrad Fischer.
ABC123
6:50 pm on Tuesday, October 2, 2012
I misunderstood the previous explanation of how Conrad Fischer has classes set up. I thought it was similar ....my apologies.
Karen Chadra
12:20 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
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Fischer Parent
11:37 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
Last night Ms. Mulaterri had her first bilngual committee meeting. She was solicitating parents to participate in the committee. Several Fischer parents were told they could not participate in the committee were told they could not participate as they did not have children receiving services. She even tried to say it was illegal to participate. But backed down and said she would research this issue. How we provide these required services impacts the entire school, as well as the resources available to all children. Yet instead of letting all parents participate in the program and the solutions, she rather keep the parents divided. Those with kids receiving bilingual services versus those whose kids do not. Just like the classrooms, divided.
Fischer Parent
11:40 am on Wednesday, October 3, 2012
I also have heard that these new policies are dividing the teachers who historically have worked very well together and team taught. The new classrooms do not allow for this. In addition the new classrooms are staffed by former resource teachers that were available to help all who needed it. Now they only can help their Esl or bilingual classroom.