After spending the last 17 years in the Senate, Kirk Dillard wants us to believe that Chris Nybo does not have what it takes to stand up to Speaker Madigan - hum... It appears to me that Mr. Dillard may want to ask himself, "if after 17 years, the State in financial disarray, and a failed Governors race, maybe I don't have what it takes to stand up to Speaker Madigan".

I agree Jack. Your point is right on. Dillard using the excuse to "stand up to Madigan" is so narrow-minded. If there were term limits Madigan would be gone too and then Dillard could sit down for awhile. ILLINOIS !!! Dillard has been standing up to Madigan (in the House) on your behalf for almost 19 years in the Senate...how's that been working out for you? Either he thinks all the voters are blind fools, or he is delusional.

I'm positive that "Nybo does realize the work it takes to be a State Senator on a daily basis". When the speaker visited Elmhurst College, I didn't see a whole lot of standing up to him. In fact, I haven't seen a whole lot of standing up to him for the last 20 years. I do know one Representative who "stood up" for his district on Workers Comp Reform and was the only member of his party who did so in his chamber. His name is Chris Nybo. That's standing up. Jobs is what matters now. No tax increases; just more tax paying gainfully employed people. Term limits time has come. No more putting off the issues til tomorrow. 20 years of that has devastated this state.

Let me see if I've got this straight, according to Nybo's term limit proposal, legislators would be allowed remain in Springfield for 24 years.

Frank, Allow me to remove any ambiguity and make this crystal clear for you. State Rep.would be limited to 12 years (6 terms). State Senator would also be limited to 12 years. Since Senators run for one 2 year term every third election, it would have to be looked at to simply make a Senate term 4 years and limit them to 3 terms.

So it would be possible for someone to serve 12 years in the House and then move onto 12 in the Senate. That's assuming the terms line up consecutively. It would be tough to do, but possible. Hope that clears this up for you. Though I know you as a pretty smart guy. You understood it before needing the explanation.

Let me see if I've got this straight. You're being paid. You said "no" many times on this forum, but the election commission report says "yes". Nothing wrong with it if you divulge the info. Since your candidate pays himself a Campaign per diem (also reported), the least he could do is pay you too. That's an interesting operation.

From what I remember Nybo could have stood up to Madigan instead he voted with Madigan and the Illinois trial lawyers on "workers' compensation", he went against his caucus and cost IL businesses & employers hundreds of millions dollars all the while decimating the payments to hospitals and medical providers. Nybo does no standing just pandering!

With due respect Kenny, your memory is not correct on this. Workers Comp Reform passed the Senate with wide bipartisan support. It actually SAVES Illinois employers $600 million + and was strongly supported by the Illinois Chamber of Commerce, the Illinois Manufacturer's Assn, and every self employer, small employer and large employer in the state. Illinois was 60% higher in Workman's Comp than the next closest state. Even with reform, we're still the highest rates in the country Kenny. It needs even more reform. This was the first reduction in cost to employers to promote hiring in years. Remember, not only individuals got an income tax increase, companies and corporations were raised too. This was jobs legislation. Did he go against his caucus Kenny, or did he GO WITH his district; the people he represents? What he didn't do was engage in gamesmanship with unemployed and underemployed people hanging in the balance. You need to examine the facts around this issue. If Nybo wanted to pander, he would have voted no. Instead, he was the deciding vote to reform the worst Workers Comp policy in the country.

Blah Blah Blah...Nybo voted to support Pat Quinn's workers compensation bill that is driving business out of Illinois like never before. He's a shill for Quinn and Madigan

Ask Nybo how often he is on State Per Diem! Thats a few hundred dollars each week he's in Springfield? Why is he running? He needs the money!

The difference is clear. Nybo is one of these Republicans that lives off the State of Illinois. Whether its Per Diem or double pensions, its all the same. What we need is a real citizen legislature where no politician can PROFIT on the tax payer dime. politicians can do what they want with their campaign dollars, thats their decision just like its my decision to spend my business' earnings. But these republicans that bill the state $1000's...when is it gonna stop?

I remember Adam Andrzejewski campaigning about exposing politicians that use the state as their cash register. Where can we see all the invoices Nybo has sent Illinois?

He doesn't send the State of Illinois invoices Mike. He reports for work there and when he's present, the state pays a daily allowance for food and lodging. I'm really surprised that a guy who could actually spell my friend Adam's last name correctly can't process the concept of "per diem". Is it the latin that throws you?

Wow Kevin you really need to get a better hobby besides sitting here watching and responding to every comment. But then again I guess it is understandable since your wife's taxpayer funded job depends on nybo staying in office. But lets get back to the issue - Illinois has the worst WC in the country - there was no reform, nybo cost our Elmhurst Hospital millions and business could have gotten A LOT more relief but he was the only House Republican to vote with Madigan and the Democrat trial lawyers! He hurt employers, hospitals, doctors, HIS District and Republicans.

I don't know why Nybo doesn't take the District 2 spot on the county board, it's just a 7 grand haircut in pay and he doesn't have to go to Springfield 174 times a year? The Mayor stays where he is because he can't keep to elected seats, and Dillard gets the newly drawn 24th district. The three should go have lunch with Cronin and work it all out. Elmhurst keeps its mayor, Elmhurst gets representation on the county board and Nybo and Dillard can figure out when Nybo moves back down to Springfield.How much it it worth not driving to Springfield?

*should read two elected seats.

Kevin pretty much done with your little games - leaving you with these last little thoughts 1 being a licensed insurance producer with a specialty in WC believe me I know what i'm talking about and that was no reform - but again the issue is - a lot more could have been done but your boy caved. 2- shill for no one 3 - I pay your wifey's salary so she's fair game buddy. I'll be back on March 20th and we'll see who's talking then when nimbo and wifey are out of a job!

Kenny, perhaps you could do the good people of Elmhurst a favor and tell them what insurance agency you represent so they could be forewarned. Workman's Comp Reform was one of the crown jewels of last year's sessions for people on both sides of the aisle. I don't have a boy and my wifey is grateful to you for your contribution to her extremely modest salary. I'm pretty sure we are not "buddies". Something tells me that even though "kenny" is an alias, that on March 20th I'll recognize you. Just a hunch.

I understand what you folks are trying to do here and both Kenny and Kevin are strong in their convictions and correct on some issues but wrong on others. Illinois Chamber was not a strong supporter of the bill they were actually neutral as was a large company like Cat who didn't oppose the bill but were hoping for more reforms, which I believe Kenny was trying to go. IL Manufacturers Association please they screwed this up last time and got us in this situation with their last attempt with "reform". In regards to EMHC what needs to be understood here is that they, not just the doc's but the hospital as well will be getting 30% less then before and that is a huge loss to them. To Kevin's point yes they employ 3,000 and were "suppose" to see at decrease, but in reality as reported in business insurance in oct.2011 "Illinois manufacturers are expected to see a 4.2% increase in workers comp rates under NCCI's proposed rate filing, while goods and services companies could see a 3.7% increase, according to NCCI's presentation this week. Rates for contractors and clerical companies would rise 2.3% and 1.2%, respectively." So sure you thought rates would go down but went up. I guess I'm missing something 30% reduction in money coming compared to maybe a small decrease in workers' comp rate doesn't come close to the 30% and lets hope there's a EMHC to remain to employee those nurses, maintenance and others.

Michael, Thoughtful remarks. However I can assure you that the Illinois Chamber was a strong supporter and even thanked Representative Nybo for supporting the Workman's Comp Bill. As I stated before, self employed persons, small employers and large employers were extremely supportive. EMHC will certainly be there. Healthcare has been among the very few industries that has grown through the past several difficult years. There's no question that more reform needs to be done to Workers Comp in Illinois. I'm confident that will happen. This state remains the highest in the nation in the cost of WC Insurance. It's a job killing surtax on employment that makes this state less competitive with all 49 others. We'll see where the rates wind up after the NCCI proposal is submitted. Everyone wants more reform. The door is open for that to happen. Good post Michael.

I think it is time to get blunt with Mr. Fitzpatrick who is Mr. Nybo’s campaign manager.
First, if you all have not already noticed Mr. Fitzpatrick always has the last word. That is the strategy!
Second, Mr. Nybo’s introducing a term limit bill is a pure political stunt.
That is the strategy!
Third, the bill is Dead on Arrival and, both Mr. Nybo and Mr. Fitzpatrick know it.
Fourth, see the first.

Kevin (Mr. Nybo’s campaign manager) who do you think you are kidding.
If your candidate is serious (and he is not) about term limits then why does he not impose them on himself. It is simple, produce a notarized document that commits Mr. Nybo to a total of two terms in the Illinois Senate. In addition, since Mr. Nybo has been in elected office for four years now, include in the document that after his two terms in the Illinois Senate that he will ban himself from seeking any other elected office local, county, state, or federal. Furthermore, if he breaks his contractual obligations he will produce within 30 days all salary, stipends, expense monies, and unused campaign funds to the State of Illinois earmarked to pay down the States debt burden. And lastly, that he commits himself in writing to not to work for pay for governmental body or work for pay for any private entity that does business with any governmental body local, county, state, or federal.
Finally, mail it to all registered voters in his district within the next two weeks.
In other words put your money where your mouth is.

Mark I have been reading this exchange with interest. Your proposal seems to go beyond "term" limits and suggest "serving" limits in the political system (elected office). It does sound interesting, but Is this something you are proposing for all candidates, or just Nybo because he has stepped forward in raising this issue?

I applaud Paul and Mark for exposing this charade. I am glad that someone has figured this guy out.
I did notice that Kevin did not take you up the challenge. Just more empty words I guess.
Heck I would be happy if he only did some of it.
I have also noticed Mr. Fitzpatrick’s use of words that he attributes to Mr. Nybo “Wonderful”, “Makes the trains run on time”, “Smart”, “Amazing” etc. These are the glittering generalities commonly used by a propagandist.
I wonder what’s next from Kevin. Is he going to claim that Nybo walks on water?
Mark, you missed one thing you should have asked him to throw in the pension to.
Paul, you are right Mr. Fitzpatrick always has to have the last word. That is the strategy is it not!

Nybo's own proposal allows legislators to serve 24 years in Springfield. Nybo's Illinois State Constitutional Amendment (yes folks, that's what it takes to institute term limits) has NO co-sponsors. One more fact, approximately 90% of General Assembly legislators are new every ten years.

One of the major problem in Springfield is the accumulated power of the leadership, especially Mike Madigan. Dillard is on record as supporting a measure that would limit the amount of time a leader can serve as leader to ten years. This proposal would not require a Constitutional Amendment (which would NEVER pass out of the legislature), and can be handled as a series of General Assembly rules. Furthermore, Dillard is on record as supporting RECALL of elected officials, which puts the power back into the hands of the constituent to pass judgement and remove an elected official from office.

Frank, who do you think you're kidding here. I remember working on signatures for Recall 4 years ago with DuPage GOP Chair Cronin at the time. Jeff Redick was the York Township coordinator for this. Hardly new.

There is now a bill filed in the House and the Senate for Term Limits. Defending your position takes going into blather. The House Bill version says no more than 12 years in either chamber. The Senate Bill says no more than 10 in either chamber. If you asked the people directly, they'd give you less than that. I wouldn't be out there defending two decades. But you can.

The role of a propagandist is to manipulate, deceive, and to con the public into believing or acting in a way that is not true or in there best interest. There are many tactics employed by the propagandist but in general there are six principals, and they are as follows.
The Big lie
Stereotyping
Grandstanding
Scapegoating
Barn Storming
Glittering Generalities
As you read the writings of Mr. Nybo’s propagandist Kevin Fitzpatrick please keep this in mind. My gut tells me you are going to see alot more of it before March 20th.

Ron, since this was posted between 4-5am, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt. The principal of "glittering generality" was the most difficult to master and "barnstorming" the most physically exhausting. When speaking with the public, we've actually just adopted the policy of telling them the truth. Then they decide what's in their own best interest. That was a kooky post, Ron.

I can't help but notice that the comments directed against Nybo on this thread consist largely of invective, name-calling and ad hominem attacks on the character and motives of Nybo, Mr. Fitzpatrick -- and even Ms. Fitzpatrick. In contrast, it seems to me Mr. Fitzpatrick's postings offer reasoned explanations based on references to facts. I don't see much in the way fact-based responses here -- instead, most of the anti-Nybo posters offer nothing more insightful than "blah, blah, blah," or make disrespectful references to Ms. Fitzpatrick as "wifey." Not particularly persuasive.

To: Kevin F. - I will be out of town election day and will stop by Addison on Sat. to cast my early vote. Thanks, very usefull reply.

Kevin - I'm back as I said I would!
Yea no more Fitzpatrick - well until he responds to this. Although I must say I certainly would have expected at least 40% out of you and Nybo - but the voters all spoke and it was a very clear message to Nybo and the Fitzpatricks - we have had enough of you both! here's a link for your wife and Chris - www.careerbuilder.com

It is only a matter of time before York Township pulls together their caucus and gives Laura something to do....you know the cronies need to take care of their own. And when does the campaign begin to eliminate township government as they can only repave the streets so many times on our dimes? The good news is that the Dillard victory has derailed the dizzying spin of the Fitzpatrick Follies for now...though we all know they will have the last word as well as dozens of excuses as to why voters voted the way they did.

Too bad about NYbo, but I think Dillard has some redeeming qualities, I am not going to the Democrats for representation. Tell me more about the waste and corruption in the township level of government. We waste millions with some do nothings in that level of government. Why do we need them? I have heard how all they do is provide jobs and pensions for a select few and provide no benefits for the DuPage taxpayer. Can't we consolidate and eliminate burereacrats and job wasting taxpayer funds?