WTFU, Read the Romney tax proposal. It cut's across all income levels. You're a drone and never will accept conservatism as the answer.

Hey russ I know you and you're not a Republican.

Hey Russ,obama is a anti-american,with anti-american mentors and backers,also a racist,and Biden is a mentally challenge four leaf clover.One more thing to you and the Bush haters. gas was $1.84 a gallon when obama took over what is it now,is obama in with the oil monguls,well is he???? How about Sen. Frank & Dowd these are the two smucks that told the banking people loans for homes or else,no denials, and we all know what happen after that,I know its all Bushes fault just like the state of Illinois's.Last time I heard Illinois is run by the Democrats.

Harry - it's run by democrats and republicans. Lobbyists, corporate money, and the money baggers all have the same result with the two party system. Republicans are no better than democrats and vice versa.

When is Obama going to release his School Transcripts?? When is he going to produce ANY evidence that he indeed attended the schools he claims? How did he get into these schools? Did he work~a real job~ to defray the cost for his Mother And Grandmother to put him through school?? Why didn't his father contribute? Why wasn't he involved in Qbama's life??
Affirmative Action. It's why this country is in the shape it's in!

The issues you raised are all Democratic sound bites. They are factually challenged and besides the point. The point is Romney and Ryan are competent and understand business. Obama only understand "social justice" and "green". Both slippery concepts. We needs jobs, and for jobs we need for our governemt to stop persecuting businesses.

Romney and Ryan understand what business wants, certainly; low wages, no taxes, no regulation etc. It doesn't follow that these things would be good for the country as a whole. Or to put it another way, business has had low wages, low taxes, low regulation since Reagan. Where's the jobs? They weren't even appearing under Bush at the height of the bubble.

Ka Ching! Know fact more than half of our nations population do not pay any taxes. You say what! ( of 3 billion plus) = ????(trillions in lost tax revenue) and as far as the big corporations go it's the Democrates kissing up for their contributions for their personal use (lobbist) they are biggest perverts when comes to this game.There are far more urgent needs to fix this economy than show me the money such as tax reform,closing down all those un-necessary military bases around the world and here in the USA. If you are so concerned about the rich and wealthiest and corporations a fair tax for all would certain elevate this problem immediately yes!..The next biggest problem is all of the people in the USA instead of pooling their efforts and go to the source(White House(Obama) of their problems and demand an immediate accounting or face the consequence(resignation) like in the real business world..They all pick their favorate and personal complaint and play the namdy pamdy game and do nothing but run around complainig to each other..Romney may not have provided his tax returns but think you have a person in the white house who personally did not and has not make any of the required criterion(official birth certificate,educational records citizenship business and personal experience,etc available as all the other predecesors did..The biggest threat to the people of the United States is their love affair with "Guns" (NRA)

Joe Wilson, just say you're racist so we can all move on.

The only candidate running that could beat Obama is Ron Paul. If they don't get it right in Tampa, expect 4 more years of O-bomb-ya.

Ron Paul has a gold backed dollar agenda that flies in the face of the U.S.C.....We need to vote to restore the U.S.C to its original form....issue OUR OWN CURRENCY...U.S. BANK NOTES.....ISSUED VIA STATE BANKS....THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ABOLISH THE FED.....

i like how russ pretends to b a gop member give it up your crazy spending democratic party is done! u guys had yer chance, your policies dont work

Cheaper gas and go shopping and forget about 9/11 and the complete failure of this Government to protect its citizens.....though documents prove they were warned and Bin Laden himself said they were warned well in advance. Yes...I remember it well. The same thing is going on today. The Government failed to protect its citizens from predatory banks and a quadrillion dollars in bank fraud even though the Bush adm. Was warned well in advance..in 2004 by the FBI about the rampant mortgage fraud being committed by the banks would lead to an economic catastrophe if something
wasn't done to correct it. Well nothing was done...the biggest ponzi scheme swindle
and heist of our wealth occurred in 2008...and what was done about it....? The
robbery by these same crooks continues unabated by the Government. Therefore ...they are ALL traitors to US.

So let me get this right. You think the government creates jobs? And Ryan's budget reduces taxes across the board and collapses the current 7 tax brackets into 2. Quit looking through your liberal tinged GOP goggles and understand the facts before you operate your computer.

It has really seemed that the Republican party is giving this election away for some time now with the insulting way they have been treating the average middle class voter. Think they are more interested in setting the stage for 2016.

stupid is as stupid does!! grow up and start earning a living!! at least Romney uses most of HIS money to run a campaign!!

I was watching the TPARTY gathering in Tampa and was moved by the tribute to VET's that was a millisecond long i also am amazed at TWIT'S FOREIGN POLICY MESSAGE the one that will be drawn by the NETANYAHOOS that will put us out front by borrowing more TRILLIONS from Sheldon's partners in Red China for the CHENEY,'S , Blackwater and the 1% the missing FBAR info has to do with his CAYMAN ISLAND CORPORATION aka people there that are using malware to loot the assets including PAYPAL accounts .

Being a democrat or a republican is a problem. Stop buying into the fantasy and think for yourself!

Love sarcasm. Thanks, Gail!

@Bob Loblaw, just say that you're a typical leftist. Live out in the wealthy suburbs, kids go to private schools etc. don't deal with the day to day situations that some do.
Your response is also typical from the Left. Deflect legitimate questions and use the R word. Because questions were asked and you can't answer!. Know it All.

Because I bother to learn about other cultures and religions? Because I don't treat minorities as second class citizens? I'm not sure what questions you're referring to, but exactly zero questions have been directed at me. Then again, you didn't even reply to my post, so I'm not even sure you know who you're responding to at this point.

By the way, I put my money where my mouth is and have devoted my life to the issues that are important to me - my work has a direct impact on the lives of others and in a positive way. No house in the suburbs, no private school, no kids. But I wouldn't expect someone whose entire world view is based on sweeping generalizations to know how to do anything else but generalize.

You're absolutely right, it's the majority of the people who unfortunately comment with their idiotic statements and hate. I wonder which one of you people will be on the news next for snapping and hurting multiple others?

I'm ready for change-- in the white house, GOP looks good to me.

Disgusted by people who think they know it all....you make no sense at all. You have no facts to back up your outrageous claims... You should try to jump back on the good side of the fence....and try not to hurt yourself on the way back.

We should tell them WE THE PEOPLE want a full refund for their robbery of US.......no store credits. Then we want blaphomets cohorts and minions all to resign. They have all DISHONORED US. The elite and their minions owe US GAZILLIONS. The boogey man isn't going to save their ship and they can shove all of their commie fixes for all of their fraud. No one believes they are broke or any of their other nonsense.

Absolutely correct.

I am not a card carrying democrat. I am a disgusted Republican that will not vote for Romney and Ryan. In fact, I worked Andy McKenna's campaign for governor in the last election, and e took Kendall County by a substantial margin. I am justsick of the fact that the GOP and Norquist have resorted to such blatant li8es and deception, have stalled job stimulus bills, and have adhered to the ridiculous notion that "trickle down economics" actually works.
I am not a sheep, and I resent the fact that after 30 years of GOP voting I am expected to blindly follow the party line. By the way...next time post yout name when you make an accusation, it differentiates between a person of conviction and a mere follower of propaganda.

Geez....don't follow a party line blindly and they label you to the opposite party.Since persons won't use their names when they call me a Democrat,I'll clear the issue up right now.Past Presidents I voted for were Reagan,Bush G.H, Bush GW, (hated Cheney) and I really liked McCain but went with Obama.(Palin self destructed and McCain could have croaked!)
Recently voted Hultgren,Cross,McKenna.Was a state page as a teenager under Deuster,mother worked for Sen Percy,wife idolized Micheller.Worked on McKenna's and Murphy's GOP campaign for Governor and Lt Gov. without caring what the Kendall County GOP's preference was (I liked Andy M better) and he took the county by a substantial margin.
I endorse Cross,not sure on Hultgren,Kirk is out. Next Governor's race I will push a Republican 2%r that married a Democrat but has a history of making small donations to both sides.(Maybe he can get some cooperation!)
Why do I mix my votes? Because while I think the GOP usually has the better candidates,they occasionally throw a nitwit in to screw it all up,that's why.So when I think a member of the other party is better,I vote for that candidate.This time it won't be Romney or Ryan.To be blunt,I'm fed up with Grover Norquist and his band of terrorists dictating policy to elected GOP sheep.I'm also tired of elitists donating huge sums of money and their candidates' claiming they aren't influenced.I vote what I believe is best.
That makes me a Repub-Ocrat.Let the attacks begin...Banzai!

@ Bob Loblaw - First of all I was commenting on Russ' post. Sorry I didn't address him personally. I asked plenty of questions in my first post, that was Not Directed @ you, but You just Chose to name call. Typical.
I did reply to your "Post" KIA. You apparently didn't bother to read it, OR only choose to take out what you wanted.
FYI I have worked with and For many cultures. MY experience Has Been that some slide through schools and jobs using Affirmative Action for their Demands, because they are holding their Instructors and Employers hostage by, Like You did, bringing on the Race Card.
How about this scenario ~ Would you want someone that just played around, smoked pot and who knows what else and didn't show up for classes, (knowing he/she could get away with it) throughout School to Perform Surgery on You or Your family Member?? Good Luck KIALL ROMNEY & RYAN

Is this Russ Harrison the same one who stdied Facilities Management at COD??

What a Deal!> yep, one and the same! Facilities Management degree, not that anyone uses it. BTW>Kept my leg after all and did the Tango with my wife a few years ago.

Wow donna.... how awesome that the president accomplished all of that so quickly!

Wake Up....they are ALL SELF CENTERED LIARS. They are all take and they give back nothing of value in return. They are all a fraud.

Donna, I don't want to make light of your religious beliefs. But we saw all this stuff in action under Bush. Do you really think we need to go back to it? Your list of platitudes frames your discussion in such a way that you can say that anyone who disagrees with you is anti-capitalist, etc. Let's take "fostering of private sector competition". How does government do that? What is it doing now to impede that? Tax rates for business are low. Interest rates have never been lower. Capital is sitting on piles of un-invested money. Wage rates are flat to negative (so labor is cheap). Regulation is low. Are you saying that business needs even more before it will do anything?

And "Obama is creating a nation of teat suckers"? Can you give me an example? Has he brought back 1970's style welfare? Are you referring to Obamacare? Should we reverse it and go back to pre-existing condition exclusions? Are the millions of uninsured in the US just lazy people in your theology?

Romney, well, who knows what Romney wants to do. Ryan is a failed supply-sider that hasn't paid attention to the last thirty years of failed supply side policies. But then, Ryan was never a businessman, was he?

Are you guys playing a drinking game with yourselves? Do you take a shot for every talking point or $.10 vocabulary word you can fit into a post? And did you really just make a thinly veiled minstrel reference Donna? Stay classy.

Donna,
I love posting first! It brings out such intellectual discussions that are not readily available on such immediate notice.I haven't read that book you referred to.I have been a bit busy researching the candidates past histories.While I am very impressed with Romney's business savvy,I am far from impressed by his ethics and his failure to adhere to a constant platform.Ryan is equally unimpressive to me as he hasn't the business experience we would want from a VP.
My personal dreams for my children is that health care will be affordable,an education will be obtainable,and that jobs will be available.Should they obtain these goals,I would expect them to pay a fair share of taxes, not support a system that demands that they blindly adhere to a dogma that has shown itself to be self destructive.(research Grover Norquist)
Regarding Romney's business experience: The amount he has in his IRA is astronomical.In fact, were you to factor the limits of contribution and look at the results, then he either is the most brilliant investor ever in the history of commerce, or he violated the rules and dumped massive amounts of unqualified lump sums...or he engaged in violations of SEC rules by contributing discounted stock shares and manipulated the shares growth...I tend to compliment him on his personal achievements but do NOT want the man running the country.I am sickened that Romney/Ryan is the best we could come up with. I want my GOP back, not Grover's (Norquist)Own Party!

Well stated Donna, I believe that russ isn't that honest with us. He says he isn't voting for the Republican ticket R and R but doesn't acknowledge the incredible miss guided or purposely chosen policies of destruction from BO. He may not be playing the game of blogging fairly, honestly and with integrity. Anyone who says they want to continue in this destruction of the U.S., it's Constitution and adopt the last 4 years as the new normal of meritocracy isn't thinking clearly or wants the government to give them a life. I don't think harboring envy and jealousy over what another has is going to deliver our country from the mess of the past 4 years. Obama is the biggest lair to ever hold the office and why would any informed person vote for him unless they also wanted socialism/communism. Like Rahm stated, “never let a crisis go to waste” The crisis has been used to bring this country to its knees by the Obama administration. The objective; to make the U.S. a socialist state. Where did all the trillions that the Fed printed the past 4 years? It feed the machine (the progressive democratic machine) and not the economy.

Yeah, we tried the "successful businessman" before. That's what got us into this mess.

"Successful businessman" Romney: Bain Capital made trillions shipping US jobs overseas.

"Successful businessman" Ryan: being born with a silver spoon in his mouth, he worked at his family's construction business, founded by his great-grandfather which was already well-established and profitable, for a a few years after college and then used family connections to get jobs as a staff member for then-Congressman Bob Kasten.

Money sticks with money and even inbreeds with it. "Money......it's a crime...." Pink Floyd

Bob, Ryan's not perfect, but I'll take him.

Yeah....Hank Paulson got 50 billion freaking dollars for throwing US UNDER THE BUS...Max Keiser said his head should have been rolling down the steps of the Capital.

......EXTORTING THOSE BAILOUTS FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.......AND CONGRESS ALLOWED IT. THEY ARE ALL TRAITORS.

Sorry to burst your bubble but......HANK PAULSON IS A TRAITOR....See the Academy Winning documentary by Charles Ferguson....INSIDE JOB.

Donna, socialism would mean that industries are being nationalized. Can you point to a single example of any American industry being nationalized under Obama?

Does the government owning a controlling interest in GM count?

If the government is actually managing GM, then yes, it counts. Otherwise, no.

Patrick, the auto industry was nationalized and Obama is shooting for more. The banks are next on his list.

Patrick Shannon....Who do you think funds and pays for everything...? WE THE PEOPLE....! The GSE's were NATIONALIZED TO THE U.S. TREASURY DEPT......THAT MEANS THE FED IS GETTING RE CAPITALIZED WITH OUR WEALTH AFTER WE ALREADY PAID FOR EVERYTHING.........THE GOVT CORP IS A PUBLIC UTILITY.....! THEY OWE US GAZILLIONS ...THATS WHY WE ARE IN A MANUFACTURED DEPRESSION....A DEATH SPIRAL....WE KEEP PAYING FOR THE SAME THINGS OVER & OVER AGAIN....WAKE UP AMERICA...!

Sorry, Ivent, I don't speak caps.

The real danger in this country is the corrupt politicians who continue to shove the FEDS QUADRILLION DOLLAR DEBT DOWN OUR THROATS.

NEWS FLASH.......We fund and own the entire Govt. Corp.! Always have....! That's what Marxist Socialism is...It allows the 1% to extract all of OUR WEALTH...!

The problem is.....the politicians are CORRUPTUS MAXIMUS.....!

That's a COP OUT...Patrick Shannon...A GLOBALIST MEME...Try and think outside of their box for a minute.

In answer to Patricks inquiry about what the government runs: GM,Student loans, health care unless we repeal the no joke "affordable care act", public education,business cycles(qe1,2,3 ...) - boom and bust, housing market - no changes in sub prime lending practices - watch-G.E will need a bail out for all the sub prime car loans they've been making. We need to restore decency in our culture. Our current president and his minions is a horrible example to our young people. The lies, deceit, envy, jealousy, calumny and detraction he allows is disgusting and in my opinions criminal.

No, Nancy, the government does not run GM or any other private corporation. If it did, we would see government appointed management and five year plans. The government guarantees student loans issued by private companies. The affordable care act does nothing to replace private insurance companies or private health providers, nor does it create a government alternative to these. We have had public education for, what, 150 years (like every other civilized country)? What's your point? Business cycles are not created and run by the government. Sub-prime lending practices (of which the vast, vast majority were done by the private sector) are over and the main companies that were doing them went bankrupt. I don't know whether GE will need a bail out or not but I do know that it is a private company. You may be saying that the financial sector needs more financial regulation, but I suspect you are not.

As far as restoring decency is concerned (whatever that means) you will have to be more explicit.

Nancy...the Government runs Gov. Corp with OUR WEALTH.

A few are missing the mark entirely when they say the Government owns a controlling interest in any of these Corps. It is WE THE PEOPLE who fund and pay for everything they do....we always have. That is why they should have never been bailed out. They pocket the profits and now the bailouts. We have been robbed and duped. They have all DISHONORED US. They were overselling investments in their debt via the Wall Street debt cartel just like what occurred with the mortgage fraud. They had no legal right to do that either because WE THE PEOPLE FUND EVERYTHING THEY DO. They have no legal right to hold that title to your car or repossess any vehicle. Because WE THE PEOPLE FUND AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING AT THE ORIGINATION FRAUD. WAKE UP AMERICA.....! THEY ARE STEALING EVERYTHING FROM US....THEY HAVE NO LEGAL TITLE TO...OR LEGAL RIGHT TO TAKE. Don't believe their legal mumbo jumbo...they are reeking with fraud and corruption...and they are taking WE THE PEOPLE TO THE CLEANERS AND COMPLETE COMMUNISM TO TRY AND CONTROL
US......READ THE NDAA...THE OVER 900 EXECUTIVE ORDERS OBAMA HAS SIGNED IN
THE LAST 40 MONTHS..AND THE PATRIOT ACT....ITS TYRANNY....AND THE NEXT STEP IS COMPLETE COMMUNISM...TOTALITARIANISM IF WE KEEP COMPLYING AND CONFORMING WITH THEIR FRAUDULENT INDUCEMENTS.

i luv u donna, will u marry me?

the government most definately runs student loans. They are NO LONGER private. My monthly check is made out to FEDloan.

Yes...the Vatican World Banksters have hijacked US via the FED.

The govt IS managing GM. GM has to get approval on all major business decisions from the federal Govt.

Also, the govt has taken over the student loans, they took that away from the banks. The banks can still give loans, but the Feds are running the program and have final say.

Socialism is more than the govt running private industry, it is also using tax dollars to pay for things that the fed govt was never empowered to pay for. Spread the wealth as Obama says. Anyone who wants socialism in this country should leave the USA for those countries that have already established socialism.

WHO ALLOWED THEM TO MAKE SUBPRIME LOANS.....? The FBI blew the whistle on the mortgage fraud to the BUSH ADMINISTRATION in 2004....They did nothing. They all knew what was going on and BOTH PARTIES SET US UP TO FAIL.

Ivent - watch the recorded hearings and see for yourself, how Democrats thwarted Bush administration attempts to put a lid on Fanny and Freddie. Start at :36 to save a little time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

They are all full of it.

Donna.....Don't get too excited about the Republicons saving US. BTW....you just may have some spittle on your own screen.

Spittle?...that's the reason I keep the windex and a towel nearby... highly recommended.

You should probably take your own advice, Donna.

To think the stock market is at a natural un ballasted 13000 seems naive I predict another crash before the election...

They are certainly planning to completely overthrow US...! Another manufactured economic crash or war will come when they can't extort anymore of our wealth. They will declare US broke. They are LIARS and THIEVES for the FED...!

October 26, 2005: House of Representatives passed regulation reforming the GSE's. The bill passed the House 331-90 (Republicans: 209-15; Democrats: 122-74), and would have given the new regulator broad authority over setting capital requirements and limiting portfolio size. Senate Democrats picked that bill up and offered it, but the Administration opposed that legislation.

Unfortunately, the White House gave Congress and the GSE reform legislation "a one-finger salute."

* "We missed a golden opportunity that would have avoided a lot of the problems we're facing now, if we hadn't had such a firm ideological position at the White House and Treasury and the Fed," [Financial Times, 9/11/08]

You Fox lovers will believe anything. The "Bush warned us and tried to stop it" school of thought will get past someone who doesn't use their brain.

Bush had a majority in both houses of congress until January 2007. He could've passed anything he wanted to and did. If you remember, he was "the decider"

So nice try, but it was deregulation and lack of oversight that caused the economic meltdown. Bush's SEC let his Wall St. friends make 30-1 bets on mortgage debt. For those who aren't strong at math, it only takes a 3% drop in the price of real estate to bankrupt the bank with a 30-1 bet.

And the war in Iraq (based on lies they cooked up) which helped triple and quadruple the price of oil also helped crash the entire world economy.

Anyone who believes the GOP version that a few low income govt sponsored mortgages crashed the ENTIRE world economy needs to try tic-tac-toe or something else that doesn't require a lot of brain power. Politics is over your pay grade.

FYI, the govt sponsored mortgages that you've been told were the problem were heavily screened for loan suitability with strict income requirements. Less than 5% of those loans defaulted.

Donna, what is the subprime market? I think you do not understand what subprime is.

Not overthrow us... Make us irrevelant in Asia The Chinese decided back around 2001 That they would be the World bank in that region Now thru things like Cash for gold They will be on a gold standard in 2015 ... You forcast what effect that will have on the dollar.... Who will give out loans...

http://news.goldseek.com/GoldenJackass/1340820786.php

Hehe did you think it was going to be easy to take out structures as old as society ......Tea partiers and Republicans dream about being the 1% even if 99.9% of American republicans will never make it Just keep climbing
Occupy says things that if anyone mearly googled they would have helicopters flying over their house...They are hiding out in a fight to brings spotlights with nothing except knowledge
Obama talks like a Kennedy, but Dances with wolves ..... His fed is ruthless and undermining ( the one shot Romney has is pushing the states rights issue on everything Abortion Pot Unions Health care Everything! No more fed law trumps)
"Cowards" ......no everyone is fighting hard both sides even if its to hang on to what they got...Better words ....dont get it .....

Anthony...funny you should talk about those helicopters. Of course the fear factor is the point where most people give up. We have a lot going on here. The point is... We are being robbed out of existance. They keep creating distractions. That is why people can barely stay focused on the task at hand. That is how they are getting away with this. People are looking for the enemy in every direction. The real enemy is the ongoing robbery of our wealth. Take away the fear and other distractions and all that remains is a lot of fraud. The intent to deceive is criminal. Non
disclosure is intent to deceive. That is why obamacare is a nullity. They are control freaks who want US to believe they own US. THEY DON'T.

Unfortunately Anthony, everyones not fighting. Go to foreclosure court....people aren't even showing up. The courtroom is full of bank attorneys. Their walking away with the place. There have been 20 million foreclosures so far. I don't call that a fight. People are settling for fraud. It is truly horrifying how uninformed the American people are. They believe everything they are told. People are complying
and conforming with a fraudulently induced Commie dictatorship......It is
creepy....worse than Orwell...they are total sheep being lead to their own slaughter.

People just don't seem to care about being robbed by these crooks and losing everything they worked for their entire lives for. They "think " they can work hard and get it back...They don't realize they were set up to fail and they never will get it back by working hard. That is the point of their set up to fail....a nation of RENTERS on a fraudulently induced Govt pay plan...who own nothing of value....just fraudulently induced bankster debt.

Not to nitpick (I totally agree with you), but the top 5% starts at an annual income of about $165k.

The president never put forth a real budget: it didnt contain enough information for the CBO to score it: As they said," we can't score speeches".http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-director-we-dont-estimate-speeches_575464.html
Paul Ryan is the only person in Congress serious about solving the federal governments structural deficits. He's not an idiot and knew that he would be vilified by the left and many in his own party for the radical fixes he proposed. But, he proposed it anyway. He would be happy to compromise but no one one the left has the courage to come up with a real budget that reflects their own principles. Since they won't touch entitlements -- the biggest part of the deficits and debt, any Democrat as serious and principled as Ryan would have to offer a budget that raises tax revenue by 50% now, up to about 75%(2010 Tax revenue 2.3 Trillion, 2010 Deficit 1.17 Trillion) in coming decades. Something they will never do. Ryan keeps trying to have a serious debate about the budget and the other side won't even show up.
Business are sitting on the sidelines and hoarding cash due to the uncertainty over the real impact of the ACA and taxes, and what the president would do in a 2nd term.

<< Everything is how Bush left it 4 years ago,>> Which, if true -- and it is not -- would mean the current administration has done nothing....

@ Throckmorton....Why did Obama's budget get 97 Nay votes and 0 Yea votes in the Senate? We haven't had a budget in over 1100 days. As for gridlock....Obama had super majority's for 2 years....he did nothing except pass Obamacare and he needed the "nuclear option to do that"....those two items are what we call facts.....If i weren't so tired I would reply to all your MSNBC talking points, but it ain't worth it.

The Krony Kapitalists have hijacked and robbed US.....The MSM won't tell the people of the Coup de tat of our wealth by their owners.

No, Lars, there was not a "super majority" at any time under Obama. While a simple majority will control the house, it takes a 60-40 majority in the Senate (it takes 60 votes to end a filibuster). The recount in the Minnesota Senate race (eventually won by Al Franken) left the Democrats with 59 seats. By the time Franken was seated, Ted Kennedy was on his deathbed. Senate rules require senators to be present for votes, so there was still only 59 Democratic votes. Then Scott Brown won the Massachusetts seat, keeping the Democratic majority at 59-41. Without sixty votes the filibuster has always been in play, and thus the president has never been able to just push legislation through. The ACA passed by simple majority because the rules allow for a simple majority vote when a budget item is contained in the bill, and somehow the ACA qualified as such. There is plenty to criticize the president over; making up stuff and calling it "fact" denounces anything of real value you might have to say.

@ J Skellig who said "There is plenty to criticize the president over; making up stuff and calling it "fact" denounces anything of real value you might have to say"".....well, here is to denouncing you....it is FACT..Here you go...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/05/democrats-lose-supermajority-brown-sworn/

(Part of the article)...WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Scott Brown took over the seat of the late Massachusetts Sen. Edward Kennedy on Thursday, vowing to be an independent voice in a bitterly divided Senate.

Brown was sworn-in by Vice President Joe Biden Thursday at a Capitol Hill ceremony a week earlier than he originally planned, and just in time to plunge into a partisan fight over President Barack Obama’s choice of a union attorney for a top labor job.

Brown’s arrival in the Senate ends the Democrats’ supermajority and gives the GOP 41 votes they can use to block President Barack Obama’s agenda.

Now you may feign over a technicality such as "death beds" and the like...however, the FACT remains, Dems had a supermajority.....besides that, you still cannot argue they did not pass a budget....they didn't even try. Your pivot to argue on technicalities only distracts from the real issue. Obama and congress, all owned by the Democrats, did nothing budgetary...period, and FACT whether you like it or not...and Obamas budget submission this year was voted down 97-0....he didn't even get a vote from his own party.

As for Republicans stopping stimulus bills, how about the 32 job bills Harry Reid calls Dead on Arrival....

http://www.majorityleader.gov/jobstracker/

PS to Mr. Skellig.....the article submitted to you (the link) is from the Washington Times and the HEADLINE reads....Democrats lose supermajority as Brown sworn in.....Feb/2010.

C'mon Lars, you're linking to an article from the Washington Times, which is as conservative as the Washington Post is liberal. When did everything that appeared in a newspaper become a "fact"? I'm shocked, shocked, that the Times would put a Republican talking point (the so-called "supermajority") into one of their headlines.

The fact is that there was never a time where 60 Democratic senators were seated in such a way as all could vote. As I said, it was 59 until Franken was sworn in, and by that time Kennedy was physically unable to be in the chamber to vote. That is not "feigning over a technicality"; that is a clear understanding of the rules of the Senate. There had to be 60 Democratic senators present in the chamber to end a filibuster, but Kennedy was indeed on his deathbed (drat those "technicalities"), so there you go, only 59 votes. Get it? There may have been sixty Democrats in the Senate for a short while, but there was no possibility for all sixty to be present for a vote. Please enlighten me as to how that constitutes a supermajority, and please do not provide me with partisan links.

And can we stick to the discussed issue? I said nothing in my comment about the budget, so that means I am not arguing about it. I'm simply refuting your misguided belief that there was ever a supermajority. Nothing else. Save the added vitriol for someone who actually calls you out on the budget issue.

@ J Skellig...well, I do need to apologize for bringing up the budget issue to you.....I had been addressing Throckmorton's post......then you kinda "butted in" on that and I brought in the discussion I was having with Throckmorton. As far as supermajority discussion goes the Washington Times is a s responsible a paper as any. Look at the NY Times or the Washington Post...they all have their leaning's but sell themselves as responsible, and journalistic......if you call one major paper partisan you won't be able to use any papers......if they are reputable and responsible one should be able to quote them...i wasn't quoting the Daily Beast, or, The Blaze, or the Huffington Post...."wiki-answers" states the dems had a supermajority for the last two years of the Bush administration and it carried for two years into the Obama administration. As for the budget discussion, yeah,my apologies.......do you agree that 1100+ days with no budget is a little ridiculous?

yes the economy could take off if it weren't for these Ayn Rand types like Paul Ryan Ron Paul and RAND (named after Ayn Rand) PAUL. They worry too much about the lazy people on welfare and disability who are living off a few crumbs, while people like Mitt Romney make off with the entire wealth of the Nation.

So you're cool with cutting military spending, I take it? Nearly 2/3s of the figure you mentioned is the result of defense spending. And I'd be a lot more worried about the natural environment you won't be leaving your kids instead some BS tax rate you made up out of thin air.

No, Obamacare has not led to higher insurance rates. Your doctor friends may want to quit but there is nothing in Obamacare that is going to force them to do anything they don't want to do. No, Obama has not eclipsed Bush 100 fold. No, inflation is low, not high. Yes, people are angry, but if these are your reasons, you are simply wrong.

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2012/03/14/health-care-costs-to-surpass-total-income/

"With current trends, the authors say, in less than 20 years the average family will face medical costs that are higher than their total income. All of it."

And yes, we should cut military spending. ALL SPENDING. Clear now? And I see you are a tree hugger by your mention of saving the environment. The earth is fine. It isn't going anywhere. We are.

The rate of medical inflation is the problem that we already had way before Obamacare. It was not created by Obamacare. Why are you implying that it was?

Patrick, I'm not implying anything. I'm as clear as a spring on this lovely summer day. Liberals are generally for raising taxes to increase the size and reach of government so it can successfully tell people what to do in their own lives. Conservatives are generally for lower taxes which means a smaller government so people can direct their own lives and take care of themselves. And if you look at the chart, medical inflation has risen dramatically under Obama. No one is saying the system doesn't need some improvements, but this legislation is not helping matters. My insurance premiums have not gone down or even stayed the same. They're going UP! along with the cost of everything else, I might add. Should we now talk about how gasoline was around $1.87 a gallon when he took office, but it's now just around $4.00 a gallon. Coincidence? Look, I like green energy theoretically, but it's just not cost effective yet.

Christine, I'm not a liberal. I'm a Catholic.

Obamacare is not causing insurance prices to go up nor is it causing our current medical inflation, which is simply continuing from before. Gas prices are rising simply because of demand; China and India are buying more cars. No president can control that.

Patrick, I'm related to several liberal Catholics, so you're not doing yourself any favors there. The Medicaid prescription cap is rationing, which will expand and continue to expand until it comes for you and your insurance, if you pay for any. As to gasoline, consumption is down due to price. http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/02/what-does-declining-gasoline-consumption-mean/

When you tax something, you get less of it. So, with higher gas prices you get people driving less. Obama's own energy secretary stated he wants to see gasoline prices at European levels (to make green energy look cheap). They pay around $10 per gallon.

You shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about. Subsidies are what keep you from paying $10 a gallon (or whatever figure you just made up, once again). But keep raging on government spending - you can't have your cake and eat it, too. The earth is fine? Get back to me in a week or ten days when you're complaining about food prices, since our entire corn-based food system hinges on a pretty delicate hydrologic balance that will only be more and more distorted as time goes on (and prices are only low under "normal" conditions because of, you guessed it, government subsidies!) It's the ultimate arrogance to divorce yourself from the natural system that is supporting you. But like I said, you'll be dead, so it will be your kids' problem.

Christine, just because I disagree with you it doesn't follow that I must be a liberal.

Unless you can show that the increase in gas prices are caused by a increase in taxes, the only other explanation is supply and demand. World gas production has not fallen, so the gas must be going somewhere.

Medicaid is rationed medical care and fewer and fewer people have been able to qualtify for it over the past decades in most states. This has nothing whatsoever to do with Obamacare. As for rationing under Obamacare, you are going to have to show me something in the legislation (which I have read, but apparently you haven't) that requires it.

I would have no trouble agreeing with you if you presented a real argument that made sense. All I see is you making correlations.

Military spending is way too much. That is one thing the United States leads with any other country. In fact, the US spends more than the next 26 countries combined. 25 of them being the US allies.

We always hear, the military is protecting our freedom - from whom? Who is attacking our freedom? Government is taking our freedoms.

Christine - you and the other misinformed person who posted earlier claim gas was $1.87 when Obama took office in Jan 2009. When in fact, in April 2008, it hit $4 a gallon in Orland Park. Where do you live that you actually believe this garbage? Secondly, the President (no matter who he is) has NOTHING to do with the cost of gas.

Romney and women hating pal Ryan are going to screw the middle class like you've never seen. Prepare the extra room to take your elder parents in cause your God knows, they're getting screwed even worse.

Christine, in December of 2008 gas was at about $1.87 because the price of crude oil was at $37 a barrel, but earlier that year prices spiked to $4.11 a gallon in May. That certainly wasn't President Obama's fault. I also don't believe it wad President Bush's fault either. The fact of the matter is no President has much control over the price of gas. There are too many factors involved for any one individual to have that much impact.

With the comments you post Christine, let's not try to paint yourself as some kind of broadly read, open minded individual. You're true colors have shown through plenty by your statements.

Let's be honest the two doctors you claim to know personally are in tune with your political beliefs; who are afraid they will not have the ability to bilk the system like they do today to keep their golf course lifestyles.

The Govt Corp are bilking the American people. They take and take from US and give nothing of value in return. Thank their greedy owners...who are the enemies of freedom .......they are both foreign and domestic. They fully intend on installing a dictatorship of slaves to the debt they create by stealing our wealth right here in our house. The peoples house....THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

To build off what Patrick Shannon said about insurance premiums: Rates went up 9% in the months after the Affordable Care Act was signed into law, way before most provisions went into effect, including the requirement that insurance companies must put 80% of premiums into care, meaning that part of the success of the Affordable Care Act is that it limits insurance companies' profits (except in the states fighting it). Now, I'm not saying the insurance companies would stoop so low as to hike up their rates to get a cushion for CEO bonuses while they still could--- Oh, no, wait, I am. That's exactly what I'm saying. Plus, the move had the extra benefit of perpetuating the faulty notion that "Obamacare" would raise insurance premiums. (It's pretty genius, really). Meanwhile, we're all hurting financially, being exploited by the insurance companies, but somehow Obama is the bad guy?

Really stones....? You can't really say that is true unless you know who the investors are.

Well Denise D.....Who is invested in the insurance companies.....? Its Krony Kapitalism.......to many greedy hands in OUR PIE.

Communism, Marxism, socialism...which is it? Do you even know the difference? I'm assuming based on your post you'll be taking your own advice and won't be voting. The Obama campaign is racist? Please, find an example that isn't from Free Republic or Newsbusters because I'd love to see it.

Communism is the ownership of the means of production by the state. Obama has not nationalized any industries, so your accusations of Communism are nonsense. We need Obamacare because the market has failed to provide medical coverage for millions of people. (I hope that you don't think that people who are not covered are simply lazy). Your prescription increases have nothing to do with Obamacare. On the other hand, you or someone you know may have gotten a refund recently; THAT is a result of Obamacare.

We have seen the failure of Bush style neo-con supply side economics. Why would we think they'd work now?

I can probably dig up my old Poli Sci 101 textbook to help you out here. Because you clearly missed a few days of class.

It really is quite apparent this election is between socialist ideologies and capitalistic ideologies.......large government versus smaller government.....hand out or hand up. Anyone that would argur eagainst this is simply defending their ideology, not arguing against or for the obvious.

Honestly? It's "supporters" such as "Mom" who are driving voters away from the GOP. They've bought into so many lies that they can't even debate the true merits of the candidates. I'm a Democrat, but I've voted Republican many times. They used to have a few truly workable ideas. Now, many thinking people are being driven to stay home or to vote for the President.

Marxist Socialism is the methodology they use to install COMPLETE COMMUNISM.....Marxist Socialism is the way they sneak in communism by Sneaky Socialist policies, Fascist monetary policy, and progressive taxation.....That is how they ROBBED US......Ongoing bailouts of the Govt Corp...aka TBTF....IS FASCISM......they bankrupt the people so they can "fix" their FRAUD...with COMPLETE COMMUNISM...which is TOTALITARIANISM .....FRAUDCLOSURE is a other method they are using to steal our FREEDOM.....THE BANKS DONT LEND MONEY....THEY LEND CREDIT....ARTICLE 1...SECTION 10 OF THE USC STATES CLEARLY.....ONLY GOLD AND SILVER COIN MAY BE EXHANGED FOR BILLS OF CREDIT.

BTW.....Those mortgage contracts.....are a nullity......once a note is converted into a stock it cannot be converted back into a note. That is unjust enrichment.....and counterfeiting of securities. Besides they never delivered the "loans" to a trust as required by the PSA agreement .......that governs trusts......or as the UCC requires.

MOM...Do we want communism..? Ha...! What do you think all of these socialist programs and progressive taxation policies were......? It was a method to rob US....with our capital so the Krony Kapitalists could monopolize everything with our wealth and CONTROL US. Now....THESE CROOKS AREN'T GETTING OFF THAT EASY WITH OUR STOLEN WEALTH.....! THE PROGRESSIVE GARBAGE THAT TRIES TO MAKE US BELIEVE WE SHOULD JUST FUGGETABOUT OUR ROBBERRY AND MOVE ON....! OH HELL NO........! WE WANT OUR STOLEN WEALTH AND PROPERTY RETURNED TO US....WE THE PEOPLE PAID FOR IT ALREADY....DON'T BE A PUSHOVER AND ACCEPT THEIR FRAUDULENT "FIXES " FOR OUR ROBBERY.....AND THEIR FRAUD...!

I am telling you that your doctors will not be driven out of business by Obamacare (you have not told us what about Obamacare is supposed to do that will drive them out of business). And yes, I do know the industry just as well as they do because of what I do for a living.

What does bringing in Illinois' financial state have to do with Obamacare. You have to explain that one too. Sure prescriptions are capped. That was the situation before Obamacare. Why are you implying that it comes from Obamacare?

Patrick, Medicaid prescriptions were not capped at 4 per year before Obamacare. That's just an outright lie. And if you can't understand the correlation between IL's pathetic financial state and the burden Obamacare is putting on the states, we aren't going to get anywhere productive. Have a great day!

Christine, the Obamacare provisions on Medicaid don't take effect until 2014. There is nothing in Obamacare that requires Medicaid to restrict the number of prescriptions. Where are you getting this stuff?

Patrick, are you kidding me? http://cnsnews.com/news/article/rationing-begins-states-limiting-drug-prescriptions-medicaid-patients

My 96-year-old grandmother is in an Alzheimer's unit. She was the frugalist person I ever knew. Never ran her air conditioning, never ate out, never went on vacation. She never graduated from high school and worked in a factory. My grandparents managed to save and invest a little. That money was gone in a few years, as the facility she's in costs $10,000 a month for people who selfpay. If she gets cancer or some other nasty disease, if it requires more than 4 namebrand prescriptions per year, they will let her die. You can't make this stuff up. It's all over the news. Wake up people. They're coming for your Blue Cross next.

The plural of anecdote isn't data. Let's start citing some sources.

Christine, are you telling me that your 96 year old grandmother is on Medicaid and not Medicare? Can you show me where Obamacare specifically caused the state of Illinois to limit prescriptions to four a year? Can you show me anything in the Obamacare legislation that says anything whatsoever about rationing? Anything at all?

I know REAL LIFE doctors who disagree with you,Christine

Christine, your article about Medicaid doesn't say that the cost associated with Obamacare are causing states to reduce their prescription coverage. Did you read the article?

Wake Up people....Obamacare is fascism....and the Pope is full of it. Everything Obama does flies in the face of the U.S.C unless it protects gay rights or illegal aliens ....Everything the Pope does flies in the face of Catholic Church doctrine.....and I am a Catholic...he is on par with Pope Malevent the 16th. Read Catholic Church doctrine on USURY...
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15235c.htm

Medicare does not pay for long term nursing care...it is indeed a mediCAID provision...I work in Healthcare and you will not find many at all that thing ACA is a good idea. They are real outlyers. Additionaly, Obama will cite that the AMA supports the ACA...well, the Administration of the AMA does support it, however, less than 15% of physicians are members of the AMA, and many are dropping out. The dues and fees they pay for the AMA are high and they really feel the AMA left them out in the cold on this one....I've heard first hand, day after day, where medicine is headed, how long they'll be around, the patients they will see (no to Medicare soon). It is truly sad. Patrick.....doctors will to survive....you may not like the end result. I'm in it everyday and listen to their concerns everyday....frightening really.

BTW......Jewish people do not believe in charging each other USURY.....JUST US. Read it here in the Jewish Encyclopedia... http://jewishencyclopedia.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&keywords=usury&commit=search

Hence the ongoing bailouts of the TBTF....The National Debt.....and the raising of the debt ceiling is fraud and unjust enrichment........USURY FRAUD...!

The doctors certainly don't want the Control Freaks in the Government Corp controlling their pay any more than any other American wants them controlling our pay or probing us or inserting foreign objects they call medical devices in us. I don't want these creepers knowing anything about my personal life.

Just like Mittens didn't read Jared Diamond but felt totally qualified to talk about it, there is a distinct possibility that Paul Ryan has never actually read Ms. Rand's work.

@ SS Native
Obama's idols are the Reverend Wright and Allah. The Rev.Wright is a hateful racist that despises Caucasians Americans and refers to them as Devils, and Barry was one of his followers for 20+ years. Allah sends followers out to kill the supposed Infidels-ie: anyone that's not Muslim and Barry Was involved in that Religion. So what's your point?

Joe Wilson, it's obvious from your comments that you're a racist. You probably shouldn't make sweeping generalizations about the largest religion in the word. Or shall we use the Old Testament to generalize about all Christians? I'll start: So Joshua conquered the entire region – the hill country, the Negev, the land of Goshen, the western foothills, the Jordan Valley, and the mountains and lowlands of Israel. The Israelite territory now extended all the way from Mount Halak, which leads up to Seir, to Baal-gad at the foot of Mount Hermon in the valley of Lebanon. Joshua killed all the kings of those territories, waging war for a long time to accomplish this. No one in this region made peace with the Israelites except the Hivites of Gibeon. All the others were defeated. For the LORD hardened their hearts and caused them to fight the Israelites instead of asking for peace. So they were completely and mercilessly destroyed, as the LORD had commanded Moses. (Joshua 11:16-20)

Rev. Wright is a black Supremacist. Obamas mother was a Jewish and an agent for the Jewish Supremacists at the FORD FOUNDATION....Geithners mother too.

Ivent, how did I know that with 100 conspiracy theories you would eventually come around to attacking the Jews?

@Joe WIlson, the word "Allah" is simply the Arabic word for God. In Malta, where everyone is Catholic but where they speak Arabic, Allah is also used for God. I don't know about Rev Wright, but I do know that you don't seem to know much about Islam.

Patrick....Saying someone is Jewish is not attacking the Jews. Just like if I said I am Italian and Irish. You jump to conclusions. Obamas mother was Jewish.... What's the BIG SECRET......? Why doesn't the media ever disclose that....They only talk about the fact his father was Muslim....

BTW.....there are supremacists in every nationality and religion...There are white, black, Italian, German, Oriental, Irish, Satanic, muslim and other religious supremacists.

Don't forget Obama's mentor.... Frank Marshall Davis, the COMMUNIST....read about it in their relationship in the new book entitled "THE COMMUNIST" by Paul Kengor, PHD.

I recall an episode of the Dave Chapelle show where he had a skit about how now that Obama got "elected" he was going to give reparations for slavery to black people with free KFC. Maybe that's why we are getting robbed.

I tried to find that particular skit of the Chappelle Show but strangely, I couldn't find it. I found another even better one .....its racy ....but you can read it here....
http:www.cleveredfool.com/top-10-chappelle-show-sketches-part-i.html

Have YOU read Atlas Shrugged? Or maybe The Fountainhead? Ayn Rand makes the case for free market capitalism. Sure her personal belief is Objectiveism, but that's a philosophy based on individual achievement. My Mom always told me that God helps those who help themselves. I would argue that it's perfectly logical to believe in Jesus and agree with Ms. Rand.

Oh, and you should be careful with the word idolize. That's a big no no in the Bible.

Joella, Nice to see some common sense after reading the comments from the intellectuals before us.
Have a nice day!

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Don't get defensive,Frank

Ha ha, you're talking about genius. Like you would know. Nothing about BO is fun unless you want more handouts. I guess that's you Old Dee Gee.

Who is getting these "handouts" and what are they?

The Govt Corp gets the handouts. They are the biggest welfare recipients on the planet. They are DEADBEATS.

You are kidding right? That's right Biden (idiot) has done so much to help out the telepromter King. oops!!...I meant to say Axelrod and Biden. Do you suppose Biden will have to take over when Barry's eyesight goes? One can't Think and the other can't Shut Up. Great Team!!!

WE THE PEOPLE CAPITALIZE THESE CROOKS.

Its the corporate Gov that gets all the handouts from US...They give US nothing we don't already pay for......and they are a joke...no joke.

Yeah russ, and you aren't a Republican. My taxes would be a lot higher if the Bush Tax cuts were left to expire. I make much less than $100,000. The country will go into a deeper rescission/depression and BO will have his crisis that he's looking for. You're not a Republican, not possible. and if you think you are, you should look in the mirror.

Please tell me One program the federal government does efficiently and effectively. We need less federal government and more individual initiative. Socialism doesn't work. Anywhere. And neither does corporate welfare. So you're half right.

Be careful with your math, letting tax CUTS to expire IS an increase.

You don't know how energy markets work, so please don't try to act like you do. If you want to cut government spending, you will need to accept paying the actual market price for gas. Do you also forgo modern medicine in favor of blood-letting because it used to be an accepted practice? Science has advanced pretty substantially in the last 30 years.

We have at least 100 years worth of our own oil....and other alternatives. There is no excuse for what is occurring. Its all about the rich getting richer by making US buy their foreign crap. I heard a news report that someone found a way to run a car on thin air. We have become small minded.

Hi, putting quotes around something doesn't count as citing a source.

Christine, you go girl. But you're wasting your typing fingers arguing with this set. Let's move on and see that Romney and Ryan cross the finish line. BTW, to the person who said ObamaCare doesn't kick in until 2014 so how can premiums have already risen: ObamaCare has already required a number of services to be offered at no co-pay, including colonoscopies, mammograms, sterilizations, birth control pills, etc. Of course, although marketed as "free," they are not. The cost will now be shifted to everyone in the insurance pool (if Medicaid or Medicare, that means taxpayers.) My premiums went up 26% as a result and my deductibles rose into the thousands of dollar range.

Debbie, I didn't say that Obamacare didn't start until 2014. I said that the Medicaid parts don't. And check your insurance; your premiums didn't go up 26% because of Obamacare. Got any sick people at work?

Well Patrick Shannon.....you say you are Catholic than you should KNOW that the MICROCHIPPED MARK OF THE BEAST is in OBAMACARE.....PAGE 1000. The section about the MEDICAL DEVICE REGISTRY States they can implant a medical device in you. U.S. COURTS HAVE RULED...."Deception is evaluated from the perspective of the unsophisticated consumer."

BTW....the media has not discussed this issue. If it was not true...and millions of Americans believe that it is.....why would the media be ignoring this issue?

The Investors are greedy Debbie Hart.

Russ and all, what is important here is to know that the IRS has seen Mitts tax returns for years. If there was anything wrong with his computations and the resulting tax he paid...It was the IRS's job to question the returns. Since they DID NOT...we have to assume ...they were submitted and passed scrutiny, and you can be sure they were looked at and gone over with a fine tooth comb.
If I were Mitt...I would submit what the law requires a candidate to bring forward and nothing more.

russ, You're not credible because you stated that you are a Republican. You are NOT. So until you speak truth about your affiliation you're just smoke and mirrors.

Ed - it's not that anyone thinks there's something wrong with Willard's taxes. We just like to see how much $$ he gets to write off for the dumbest crap in the world. $77k to take his horse to a prom is a bit ridiculous. Not to mention all the money he has hidden off shore to not pay his share of taxes.

The law requires the candidate to bring forth 2 years of taxes. However, Willie's dad submitted 12 years when he ran in 1968 to prove that every business man has his ups and downs.

His idiot wife really needs to stop calling every one else "You people". We are NOT the hired help.

It appears the tax return issue is a sore spot for those that follow the GOP blindly. The simple fact is, Willard and Ann Romney did NOT submit their completed tax returns as they failed to file the Foreign Banking Activity Report for one year, and merely submitted a proposed tax return for the other. Be that as it may, even the GOP has been pressuring them to release their tax returns.
Romney has admitted to having some past issues with the IRS, and has "satisfied his obligation" and "scheduled a compliance with" the IRS, whatever that means.I assume that if he had any problems he either paid the fine or has made arrangements to do so...or his tax advisor has done so. But....even if he's squeaky clean, why the refusal to show his returns, even at the request of his own political party?That's political suicide!
Its almost as though this is merely a dog and pony show in which we are running the winner and runner up for Best Float from the Parade of The Truly Bizarre and Detached. Then we add Ryan to that ticket. He honestly believes that using a voucher system (amount tied to COLA) to assist the elderly with their medical bills will really force the insurance industry to lower their pricing and restrictions...sort of like the TARP act he voted for and the extension and additional Bush tax cuts saved us from a recession and brought about millions of new jobs and a vitalize economy. Nice idea, but naive...then again, Ryan did have a pretty float in the Parade.

Jane, I don't think you're up to speed on the changes.

I could go into the F-tags for you, if you would like. : )

A 90-something long-term care resident who is not receiving skilled services paid for by Medicare Part A is most likely receiving medications through the Medicare Part D benefit, so the Medicaid drug provisions do not apply. A facility is obligated to provide services to its residents regardless of paysource. When a resident fails to pay his bill, you don't get to stop feeding or medicating him. You don't get to put them out on the front step. If a doctor orders something not covered by a pay source, and the resident is without private funds to pay for it, the facility must provide it and eat the cost. It happens a lot with therapy. Medicaid residents receive rehab services with are not covered by the per diem paid by the state, so you eat the cost. Why? Because it would result in multiple F-tags (federal violations) including but not limited to failure to follow physician orders. A situation like what is described her by Christine would likely result in immediate jeopardy citations to the facility.

There are also provisions for residents who do have their meds paid for via Medicaid to get exceptions to the limits in place. False information like this is the same as "death panel" nonsense.

From the Medicare.gov website: "Long-Term Care Facility —Long Term Care pharmacies contract with Medicare drug plans to give prescription drug coverage to their residents. If you're entering, living in, or leaving a nursing home, you'll have the opportunity to choose or switch your Medicare drug plan. This allows you to get a plan that contracts with the nursing home's pharmacy."

From the IL HFS website:
The purpose of the four prescription limit is to have providers review their patients’ maintenance medications and, where possible and clinically appropriate, reduce duplication, unnecessary medications, polypharmacy, etc. There will be exceptions to the limit for drugs for which a prescription limit isn't logical. Examples are drugs such as antibiotics, which are typically not dispensed as maintenance medications, and products used in total parenteral nutrition combinations (TPN), which require multiple prescriptions to be filled for a single patient each month.

Why would Christine lie about her own grandmother? The meds are too expensive. People are looking for more holistic healthcare alternatives. Thats awesome. They have people on way too many meds nowadays.

You know what Jane....? The American people are sick to death of all of the red tape....the bureaucratic mess they have made of our country. They are all greedy jerks who take way too much. Part a..b..c..d..e..who gives an f. WE ARE FED UP..TO OUR EYEBALLS WITH ALL OF THEIR B.S...! The founding fathers made the U.S.C. simple to understand so that every American could use it to protect their rights...without an attorney...that's right....without a LAW DEGREE..If we have to go to LOYOLA TO UNDERSTAND HEALTHCARE.....WHO WANTS IT....? NOBODY DOES...! Reading Obamacare and trying to understand Obamacare....makes you want to take cyanide.

Eric - the first step to resolving any problem is to recognize we have one. That problem is the two party system - democrats and republicans. We need additional choices other than the two party dictatorship. Programmed computers is the last thing this country needs. This country needs the voters to quit sitting on their hands and vote for someone else other than a democrat or republican.

The one party you refer to must be the big corporations and the big money?

Right on Teg ...! 2 choices for President is a dictatorship. We need to eliminate the Electoral College scam. Popular vote should be the only way to elect a President in a free and open society.

Who cares.....quit listening to the main stream media that push the two party agenda. Vote for someone else.

So wait, you uphold the Bishops moral pronouncments on a budget plan but reject their moral arguments about the value of life?

When is the Catholic church going to start selling it's vast holdings and treasures and giving to the poor? Then it can critique the Ryan budget.

John, you are a riot. You couldn't be more wrong.

Right on Robert V...! Where's the good fruits......?

OLG,so funny,you crack me up

Invent, How is ignorance spread? By the thought that each state doesn't have a vote through the electorate process. Is Illinois in BO's camp? Will that stop me from voting? Every vote we make is important. The electoral college was setup so that the most populated cites and states didn't have the ability to elect over those that live in the suburban and rural areas. It is a fair system that was clearly thought out even if you don't understand. Checks and balances as the Senate is equal for each state and Representatives that are elected through an near equal division of the general population. Since the Reps. are more sensitive to the district that elected them they also have a much shorter term. The Senate has a longer term and are not as sensitive to the voting district because it's the entire state they represent. Senators have more freedom to act and vote how they personally want to. Take a look at how Harry Reid has been lying his nose off. He was elected two years ago so he's got breathing room, 4 more years, to take that risk. Clearly you didn't major in political science, maybe you didn't have a major or a degree in anything. Maybe you don't know that the U.S. is a Democratic Republic. It's a Republic not a Democracy. If we were a democracy everything would be decided by popular vote.

The ELECTORAL COLLEGE ELECTS THE PRESIDENT..... http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/certificates-of-vote.html

iVENT You had to look that up to understand it?????

TRUST BUT VERIFY.......IS NO JOKE.

Ivent, You're embarrassing yourself.

Better yet..... http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008-certificates/vote-illinois-01.html. Who is John R. Daley......Corruption....its what's for dinner, breakfast and lunch.

These are the folks WHO elect the president.

You are embarrassing yourself...."no joke ".....you have NO FACTS to back up your claims......However, I do.

He is venting everyone vents Glad its not on a co worker or a loved one.. I think the analogy holds true in the fact the one united goal of both parties and most corporate sponsored poltical action commitees is to keep a two party system in place...

The facts are the facts. They don't lie.

8% unemployment is an extreme low ball number. The media does not include the underemployed or those who have given up looking for employment. There are a record number of Americans on food stamps. That is a disgrace in the wealthiest and freeist nation on earth..WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND A FULL REFUND...!

Herrderr.

Obama was put there to finish us off. Both parties are corrupt and useless and should step down.

Both parties are corrupt and useless and should step down.

ummm,i am getting old but i can remember back 4 years ago.The country was about to fall into a huge depression, unemployment was trending toward an all time high, wall street was begging for help, 2out of 3 major auto makers almost went out of business.Yea it was pretty bleak.Not so bad now ,we still have a long way to go,but not as far as we did then.So I would say YES, we are better off.

Oh No! Another Russ? This could get confusing if we excersise our right to disagree....

Sorry Russ H, I have been trying to stay out of this.Your comments don't need my help,but this was low hanging fruit.lol

@ Russ.......unemployement when Bush left office was 5% according to the government bureau of labor statistics.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Bush Left office in January 2009.
Unemployment was 7.8% according to your own link. Not 5%.

I know you have had this pointed out to you before, so one has to wonder why you keep posting it.

No Russ, we were not going into a depression. Bush acted quickly to avert a real crisis and laid the foundation for the recovery. Obama just built on Bush's solution.

Have you actually been in the GOP? Are you planning to vote for the GOP ever again?

Robert V ,
your right bush did set the wheels in motion to keep the recession from turning into another depression:
http://economics.about.com/cs/businesscycles/a/depressions_2.htm
He knew the importance of trying to stop the train wreck that he caused

Robert v,
I think i am being confused with Russ H.So I'll try not to go any further with this thread.
Although I have voted mostly republican in the past,I haven't seen any reason to vote for them now or in the near future.

Better off...? There are more Americans on food stamps than ever before. The mainstream media is masking the fact this is an economic depression. Financial experts have stated we are in an economic depression. Please open your eyes and ears.

The Iraq War was a complete waste of money. Do youself a favor and ask this question.....what did the war in Iraq or Afghanistan do for yourself and the United States of America?

What about the $14 trillion and growing that CONgress and Obama gave the FED in the illegal and unconstitutional ongoing bailouts of the so called TBTF.......?

There's a luxury tax on those Hells Bells, Ivent. So pay up...2 dollars. Oh crud ....those are Hells Bells, meaning they are powered by sustainable energy. In that case, where do we send you the the million dollar check? And, how about hiring a few overseas dudes to ring those bells why you're at it...say, for another million?

Tax and spend OUR WEALTH is the CORPORATE GOVT MOTTO Russ Harrison.

Russ - if you think a democrat or republican will solve the problems, you're mistaken. If you continue to vote for one of the two major parties, you deserve what you get and you already see the horrible results that brings. A vote to the two party system encourages the big money campaign contributions or a system of bribery.

This is a bank balance sheet depression.....STOP the robbery of the American people for a QUADRILLION DOLLARS IN BANKSTER FRAUD....!

Watch the video....the banks got 14+ trillion of our wealth.....total value of ALL U.S. PROPERTY AFTER THEY BURST THE HOUSING BUBBLE.......$8 TRILLION.......!

AUDIT THE U.S. TREASURY DEPT...AND FORT KNOXX....MAKE THEM ACCOUNT FOR EVERY DIME OF OUR WEALTH THEY BORROWED TO THE FED.

State banks are a great idea.I believe, Montanna is the only state in the union with one.Local people get loans that they wouldn't have gotten otherwise.

Russ,
North Dakota has a state owned bank, not Montana, and they are the only state.

Lending standards are actually tighter, not loser. Higher down payments, but lower interest rates.

state banks are a great idea.Locals are getting loans that could never be obtained by the big banks.The only state bank in the country is I believe in Montanna:
http://www.montanastatebank.com/aboutus.htm

thanks Tim,
http://www.webofdebt.com/articles/state_bank_option.php

frank,
I actually live in Montgomery...but to read the comments you'd think a lot of New Lennox people know me and my positions personally. I honestly don't know if I've ever been to New Lennox, or even know exactly where its located (by Joliet?) I particularly love the person that claims to know me and that I am a Democrat. I'd like to say we've spoken together, but he didn't post his name. At either rate, I am hoping that everyone here will actually vote in the election, no matter what their convictions are. This is truly a wonderful country when it comes to the freedom to express an opinion about our leadership and potential leaders....at least we still have that freedom so far.

Where is your hideout frank?....where Romney's millions are hidden in the Caymens? Are you down there guarding your ill gotten gains that we all funded and paid for? You are a CROOK...!

Walt, that would be tea and kool aid, if you really want to know what everyone's drinking.

Not this Catholic......I don't believe in spreading our wealth around.

R/R = Rescue and Recovery

There is no such thing as a Roman Catholic Democrat! What does the Roman Catholic Church say about Pro-Choice and Pro-Life? Abortion and Euthanasia, are absolutely forbidden by the Catholic Church. (Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 2272) “Formal Cooperation in an abortion constitutes a grave offense. The Church attaches a penalty of Excommunication to this crime against human life.” It continues: “A person who procures a completed abortion incurs excommunication latae sententiae,” “by the very commission of the offense,” and section 2273 states, “The inalienable right to life of every innocent human individual is a constitutive element of a civil society and its legislation:” The phrase that denotes that Democrats cannot be Roman Catholic is the Formal Cooperation clause. The Democrats have in their platform a Pro Choice Plank that makes each an every Democrat responsible for each and every abortion that occurs in this country. You can't get much more Formal than to put people in power that will maintain the status quo with regard to abortion. Therefore, there cannot be any Roman Catholic Democrats as they are all excommunicated! "Latae sententiae!" There may be priests, bishops, and cardinals who will try to weasel their way out of this using a catch in Canon Law of some sort, but they too would be rebelling against the intent of the Holy Father and the Holy Spirit! Life is Sacred! All Human Life!!! From Conception to natural death!

The Government Corp doesn't belong in our personal lives or personal decisions. They are no one to espouse moral values. Financial Transactions that effect the world economy however, should be closely monitored and regulated. That is where they failed US.

BTW....There is WELL DOCUMENTED PROOF....The financial robbery and coup de tat of our wealth by the FED was due to A FAILURE OF THEIR SYSTEM....and IT WAS INTENTIONAL...$1.2 QUADRILLION DOLLARS IN BANKSTER FRAUD DOES NOT HAPPEN BY ACCIDENT. The FBI warned the Bush Administration about the mortgage fraud in the financial industry in 2004....they did NOTHING TO CORRECT IT.

CLTV reported tonight that Gov. Quinn is saying there is $100 billion dollars missing in pension money....Mayor Daley said before he left office there is going to be a $150 billion dollar property tax increase by the year 2014 in order to pay for all of the missing fireman's and policeman's pension money....I read the politicians were using that $$$$ and the Medicaid money as their own personal credit card.....I will look for the link to the article. Anyhoo...we got robbed again...Well, since the FED committed a quadrillion dollars in fraud in our names.....and they have quintillions in unjust enrichments hidden overseas....make all of the criminals pay US back....!

actually you got your bag of money wrong that was 2008.. 2012 the Elephants get 2/3's of ALL pac money.. going on 75% ... Ge and Apple turned on Obama...

The lesson from this election will be " Money cannot buy hapiness" there will be record amounts spent on the LOSER..

Ivent we should spread the money around Imagine how packed red lobster and Macy's would be on the first of the month...Welfare people spend every dime they have .... If one is jealous of the underprivledged gettting 500 a month. The words jealous and petty come to mind...
Sack of Durbin ( that name is curious ,, I muse its a reference to a Rap song by Rick Ross However since you are most likely white between 30-45 its very comical for a guy like that to emulate a 6,4 300+ gorilla Zod black guy).. To answer your question lol Ivent is smoking Marijuana...a sustainable product That we can make GAS from ! (no joke hemp is more industrial than corn) or that we can tax like booze ( no one ever smoked themself to death How many people die a year from alcohol posioning).... this thread is a good thing. Waking people up

I am Catholic and I am well aware of the hypocrisy from within the church, as was J.F.K. John Paul II feared he was the Pope they would use to try and install Complete Communism. That is why these TBTF must be held accountable.This was an evil plan... . Another Hitler plan. These communists are trying to install complete communism here in America.....In J.F.KS speech on Secret Societies he knew of this
evil plan when he said an error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.....There are no fixes for fraud. There will be no economic recovery until
the crooks who caused this mess are held accountable. TBTF was a huge mistake. The so called TBTF WERE NEVER BROKE.....JUST ON PAPER...Now, the bailouts have to stop.....THEY ARE FRAUD and ROBBERY... they have to pay US back. Or there will be no economic recovery....ever...! Then we need to restore the U.S.C ....ISSUE OUR.
OWN CURRENCY.....U.S. BANK NOTES....VIA STATE BANKS ....ABOLISH THE FED......That is the only correction that will work. TBTF is a lie...a sham...and a fraud.

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Anthony...ha ha....I don't drink or do drugs....I don't know what bag of money you are referring to but...check out this very informative Keiser Report: Wall Street Gangsta! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVECwKRmhx8

In regards to the politicians....all investments and contributions to them or their companies should be public record. Why? This has become a national security issue and....We pay taxes.

I agree.Once a year post the salaries of all public employees by position or title, and how much OT they received. The employees name does not need to made public unless they are an elected official.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT PAY THE BILLS FOR THE PRIVATE SECTOR.....HOWEVER....THE PRIVATE SECTOR PAYS THE GOVERNMENTS BILLS.

THAT IDEA BY DISGUSTED BY YOU PEOPLE WHO THINK YOU KNOW IT ALL ...... IS COMPLETE COMMUNISM......THAT IS DISGUSTING.

I'm with Ivent! Government is supposed to be the Servant of the People! Not the other way around...

Thanks Frank...Common Sense by any other name does not a Congress make...

J. Skellig....great post but bring logic, reasoned thought and intelligence into a current conversation about politics just doesn't seem to be allowed anymore. The screeching partisan garbage coming from both sides is killing our great country. And that doesn't even take into consideration, the nuts. Thank goodness there's only a few running through this thread.

There are no open market....the Krony Kapitalists have hijacked the free markets. Get a clue.

The IRS knows every detail of Romney's returns. If there were anything illegal, they would have acted long ago. It boggles my mind how many folks think that if his returns are not released to the public that the government does not know if anything is illegal!

The plutocrats and the oligarchs chose him and his "running mate" not US.

Robert V., as I said, it might NOT be illegal. However, if you really think about it, how many people, especially wealthy people, avoid or dodge paying taxes for YEARS before they are caught? Then we read a story in the newspaper about them owing millions for back taxes...Romney might not be the most ethical, but that doesn't make him stupid, nor does it make him careless.
I once read an article about President Clinton during his scandal...they asked him why he didn't just say no comment to anything instead of lying to the country about the affair. He basically stated that he knew it was a risk to lie, but saying 'no comment' would basically be an admission. While the circumstances are different, Romney is essentially saying 'no comment' to the American people, probably because to 'lie' he would have to release phony tax returns that would be instantly repudiated by mutliple sources, including the IRS. So, with that option off the table, he can only pick from saying nothing or saying the truth. Considering HIS OWN FATHER set the standard of taxes released, Romney MUST be well aware of how bad it looks to release virtually nothing by comparison. Yet, he would rather take that PR beating than whatever it is that is in the 'Truth' he will NOT release...
This is simply pure logic, Robert V., nothing more...nobody would take the 'hit' of bad publicity if they could avoid it...remember, McCain vetted him four years ago and passed for an unknown idiot. That alone speaks volumes.

J. Skellig....great post but bring logic, reasoned thought and intelligence into a current conversation about politics just doesn't seem to be allowed anymore. The screeching partisan garbage coming from both sides is killing our great country. And that doesn't even take into consideration, the nuts. Thank goodness there's only a few running through this thread.

Robert ,
2009 was the year the IRS granted amnesty to citizens that had been engaging in overseas activities and avoiding taxes. Blanket amnesty...as in wipe out the criminal activity, pay your fine, and no one ever gets to know. We haven't seen any Romney return form 2009 or prior. His 2010 return is incomplete and in IRS criminal violation because he refused t file his Foreign Banking Activities Form (FBAR) and he has alre3ady been told to file it or pay a hefty fine...he's chosen to pay the fine. His 2011 return is bogus, a sham, merely a "projected" return that has NOT been submitted to the IRS. So...when you say the IRS has reviewed Romney's returns ad would have punished him for anything he did wrong, you are correct. They did find wrongful activity and they did address it...that is, they adressed the issues they were able to uncover AFTER the 2009 amnesty. But...without the FBAR it is almost impossible to decipher where a foreign account got its funds, if there are other undisclosed accounts, what the activities were, what was trail of the funds, etc.
So to say Romney was shown to be in total compliance with the IRS is incorrect. The man has only shown the public NE incomplete tax return from 2010 and a "fictional" scenario of a tax return for 2011...and that folks, is what bothers me and a lot of GOP higher-ups. That and the fact he picked that milquetoast Paul Ryan as his running mate when they were sooo diametrically opposed on major issues.

Wake up people...Romney earns his money from investments...stocks, dividends and interest and other "soft" income which BY LAW is taxed at 15%. That percent of millions still comes to a hell of a lot of money. Mostly I worry that bitching about his low percent would lead to a change in the tax law which will hurt almost all seniors whose income is primarily from interest and dividends. Shut up or you will get what you wish for...and our seniors will not like or you for bringing it about.

Where's all of our wealth Dave....? Where did it ALL GO..? In the pockets of the Govt Corp...the sheisters...the money changers....the corrupt politicians ......that's where.

We might live in an oligarchy....that we funded and paid for....? Well, that's absolutely criminal now isn't it...?

Dave W...that all sounds like a conspiracy your weaving... It even sounds kind of bat shit...! Oily residue and someone paid US back a lot of money...? WOW...! I wouldn't listen to Dave W....hes deluded....

No Dave.....wrong answer.....we should have never been forced to bail out these crooks.....they have quintillions in wealth they made by DISHONORING US.....! But they wanted to rob us of everything.

Alright Dave W.....Now you just sound completely bat shit... We get what we deserve...? U.S. COURTS HAVE MADE CLEAR....."Deception is evaluated from the perspective of the unsophisticated consumer." and ....The intent to deceive is criminal in the U.S.A

Dave W.....I will not let you stop me from expressing my right to free speech...under the first amendment of the U.S.C.

SORRY DAVE W....YOU HAVE NO VALID ARGUMENT...ITS ALL THE TRUTH..AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT.....The people are sick and tired of being taken to the cleaners over and over again....What do we have to show for all of our hard work...? A worse economy than ever.....and NO CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT....WE THINK WE WILL SUE...WITHOUT ANY ATTORNEYS...UNDER THE SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND...THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION....WE WILL SUE ALL OF THESE CROOKS... CONGRESS...THE SENATE....WALL STREET AND THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK...WE WANT OUR DAMNED MONEY BACK....

Dont like it Dave...? TOO BAD......Tell your woes to the Govt Corp......its not my ideology. Its theirs.

No need to apologize Dave....We all know the lies...We've heard them all before. You are ALL in dishonor.

To be clear...."Dave W." Has no facts to back up his claims.....Show me the documentation.....the paper trail..THE EVIDENCE ..from the Treasury (US)...to the Fed...to these Corps....to WALL STREET ....and when it supposedly came back to US....is there a magik trick involved here...because we are all pretty broke down here on mainstreet....but last I heard....these Corps are all posting profits.

Dave W....this is not about what lvent needs. This is about ending the ongoing robbery of the wealth of the 99%, and returning our stolen wealth, livelihoods, and country along with all of our freedoms back to WE THE PEOPLE. The real owners of this country.

Invent, it sounds like you want someone elses money back. You think all the corporate wealth is somehow dirty and must be redistributed to people like you?

All the wealth you enjoy was created, not by the government or by the collective action of the "people", but by businesses. All of it. Government creates nothing.

Sounds like you work for the same Govt Corp who robbed the 99% and you are on the TAX PAYERS DOLE...

Not surprising when an American citizen starts talking about sueing the Gov Corp for robbing WE THE PEOPLE, all their payees come out to attack. They need better trolls.

You would be welcome to move to Texas, low cost of living, cleaner government and no income taxes. But the Obama government sees Illinois as a model for the nation over Texas.

The road to hell is wide and easy to find. That's why I don't take the easy way out.

At least we got the conversation started.

LOL. Great way to start the day. Thanks, Roseann!

You are either a sellout ..or a foreigner.

good one

Oops. Silly me. Forgot one.

Bankster Fraud Has Driven 100 Million Into Poverty, Killing Many

"But the World Bank notes that the financial crisis – you know, the one caused by financial fraud – has driven between 64 and 100 million people into destitution."
http://tinyurl.com/9osqnqy
Let me know when we're having fun...

Any fan of Ann B is a friend of mine.

Roseann must be a sadist, if she thinks that article is funny.

Humor yourself Roseann....YOU ARE IN DISHONOR...Millions of Americans know the truth and they aren't laughing. They are sick of being robbed and being broke paying for a quadrillion dollars in bankster fraud. ......go to this link......BANKERS STILL ROBBING US BLIND AND CAUSING CHAOS.... http://electronzio.com/?q=node/326

@Ivent, guess what budddy? I vent too and just look and see just how hard I'm laughing? Know what else? I CAN SHOUT TOO!
and
No- millions do NOT know the truth since the media doesn't report the truth !!!

Millions know the truth Roseann....thanks to alternative media sources and some really honest Americans who blew the whistle on the biggest ponzi scheme swindle and heist of our wealth and freedom in history. There are some who are not paying attention to the wake up call. That is why those who know the truth have the duty to do their best to alert the people.

"I'm voting for VIRGIL GOODE"

I'm all for abandoning the War Party factions but why on earth would anyone vote for Virgil Goode? Do you know anything about this man?

@Roseann....Did you go to the link...? I did not write the title to the article or the article. It was from Washington's blog and it was posted on a law website. You are too funny..ha ha.

Well Roseanne....I know of 3 suicides of family men who lost everything due to the massive world bank robbery of our wealth. Apparently, when people lose everything, they worked for their entire lives, they lose it.

No, now why would I ever want to do that.
And to think I printed out the article two days ago.
Oh well.
(psst- you flatter yourself to think that I implied that you wrote the title to the article or the article itself. To each his own)

That sounds just like something from Gerald Celente.

You make absolutely no sense Rosann..at all.

That sounds like something from Gerald Celente....what is your point...?

No.....it appears some have another agenda that is UNAMERICAN. They are trying to cause distractions. It's not going to work. The political and bankster crooks are robbing too many Americans of everything.

Teh Bush. TEH BOOOOSH! TEH EVIL BOOOOSH!!!!!!!

Just wanted to get that out there. Carry on.

What budget are you talking about?

Robert - How many times has the GOP Congress members voted on the Jobs Bill? Answer: Zero

And how many times have they voted to try and repeal Obamacare? Answer: 33.

Who's anti-jobs? That's right, the GOP. Why? Because they think it'll help them 'succeed' in November.

Blogging isn't cutting what Katy K? I sure hope you wake up..

Your welcome, Spencer.

If talking about the robbery and looting of the wealth and freedom of the American people by the politicians and their Kronies is entertaining to you....that's pathetic.

Hope he's not talking about any of us here. What do you think? Hmmm.....

With Both Presidential Candidates Full Of Hot Air, El-Erian Warns Of Populist Anger Returning
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/both-presidential-candidates-full-hot-air-el-erian-warns-populist-anger-returning (at least the DHS isn't buying up millions of bullets or anything, just in case and all)

If watching these Krony Kapitalists talk about installing a dictatorship in America after they are through robbing US....because thats what their owners want is interesting to you......Because they claim to know what's good for WE THE PEOPLE....??? SO THAT MEANS.......MORE STEALING OUR WEALTH AND MORE PROGRAM CUTS THAT WE ALREADY PAID FOR AND MORE JOBS WITH THE FUNNY HATS....that is pathetic. We need to vote to restore the U.S.C....and ISSUE U.S. BANK NOTES VIA STATE BANKS....ABOLISH THE FED....

What'd you say? Talk about installing a dictatorship? Hello????
Me thinks maybe it's you that don't get it.
#rEVOLution

So Roseann....you think your safe because you have an income.....? You are only one paycheck away from their manufactured oppression. Unfortunately for many, this plan for complete communism is very deceptive. You think you have security but., sadly, that is a manufactured illusion.

#revolution....? I say peaceful non compliance whenever possible...... and never ever give up your guns.

The complete communist dictatorship only gets installed roseann if we comply and conform with the mortgage fraud and Obamacare fraud and we don't start revolting on all of their fraudulently induced tyranny.....like property tax revolts. Obamacare is here but we don't have to participate. We better start standing up for our rights to these tyrants or we are going to have hell to pay to get our freedom back.

Bain actually started with a major (40%) influx of start up funding from Central America.(Boston Globe) They are still major players today after rolling over their investments numerous times. Then again, where else can they put their money? Even criminals and death squad financiers have to make a legitimate dollar sooner or later. (Investor Daily)

Well Roseann...one person can't do it alone. The first step to restoring this Country back to what it was meant to be ......free and independent ....a land where the people are the sovereign ....is raising awareness. You can't go to battle and win a war if you are unarmed and you don't know who your enemies are.

Vent=9. to give public utterance to: to vent one's opinions. 10. to relieve by giving expression to something
bitch=7. Slang . to complain; gripe
Moan=3. complaint or lamentation. verb (used with object) 7. to lament or bemoan: to moan one's fate.
yea he touched all the bases on that little run

Guard yourselfs against proclaiming wild boasts..They got a guy in jail for saying he hid his fictional dynamite in a hollowed out Harry Potter book stored under his bed....

Its Mrs. and...... someone has to do it. We have too much to lose. Freedom is guaranteed to no one. It has to be guarded and protected.That's why the U.S.C said we should always have militias at the ready....just in case the Govt starts acting like a tyranny ....and is oppressing the people. What more proof do we need than 20 million fraudclosures....20 million more to come and half the country is living below the poverty line.......through no fault of their own.....as Obama stated. Whose fault is it.....? The Krony Kapitalists in CONgress and the Senate.....that's who.

Its a Krony Kapitalist playbook.

Yes..they are all full of it.

good info funny, and sadly true thanks lvent

Remember ladies...know your place. Its a man's world...unless YOU vote.

"i dont care that the top 10% of them pay almost 70% of the taxes. while the bottom 20% pays nothing. they need to pay their fare share."

Fair share, according to leftists: The fruits of your labor belong to the State. Anything you keep is due to the good graces of our betters at said State.

Guido: Spare us the Koch brothers sound bites. You want a return to the Gilded Age like they do? I don't because it wasn't a very nice time for 95% of the population. The ueber-wealthy should quit complaining - under Eisenhower, a REPUBLICAN president, they paid 90%. That was also our most prosperous era for white collar and blue collar alike. Methinks you just want to be a monied elitist.

Oh brother, Joseph Martan, another liberal who believes everything Michael Moore spoon feeds him.

truth: http://almostclassical.blogspot.se/2011/03/90-tax-rate-myth.html

And Joe Martan walks in to confirm my definition. Thanks Joe, right on time.

Mr. Jacobs: Rather than trying the old high school debater's trick of attacking the person making the argument rather than the argument itself, why not go the library and read up on the history of the U.S. in the 1890's and before the administration of Teddy Roosevelt. The economics didn't favor anyone who wasn't filthy rich - neither did the laws. And, for the record, I wouldn't waste my time with that bloviating bag of wind Moore.

Tax rates were much higher in the 50s (we had a little war we needed to pay for, and a world to rebuild) BUT we also had little global competition and we were the world's factory back then. ALSO a large part of the money wasn't simply being redistributed to other taxpayers as it is today. Taking my money to build a road: The usual concept of taxes and government. Taking my money to give to someone else? Wealth redistribution. As more and more of governments expenditures come to resemble the latter, fewer and fwer of those paying the freight will do so gladly.

I have posted this link before...it appears to be either non-partisan or even right-leaning, but I believe the information to be straight up and factual (since it would VERY easy to counter...). Also, HOW that top tax rate works is often misunderstood, and why Michael pays 30% or more is different than why Mr. Romney pays only about 15%.

http://www.ntu.org/tax-basics/history-of-federal-individual-1.html

Say what you want about Michael Moore, I liked how he blew the whistle on the Krony Kapitalists in his documentary, Capitalism A Love Story. The problem is not Capitalism however, the problem is Marxist Socialism ......Communism. That is the weapon the 1% used to hijack the FREE MARKETS. Mr. Moore also showed up in Wisconsin on behalf of the 99%.

The millionaires, billionaires and gazillionaires are hoarders Lou. They take and take and give back nothing of value. Except to the foreigners. Like Oprah. She gives her audience some free stuff once a year...but she spreads her wealth around foreign countries instead of helping people here. Someone I know catered one of her shindigs said she treats white people like crap and she is a jerk in real life.

"Up until a few years ago I was happy, I dare say almost proud, to pay my annual income tax."

LOL, so you were one of Lenin's UIs?

See, there is a cure for a UI diagnosis. It's not too late for the leftists of the world.

Yeah, you must have a bad accountant. Because in 2011 according to the tax tables if you were single with NO property and no deductions whatsoever the most you could have paid is $128,864.

Whats your profession mike? Why the sudden drop in incomein 08?

Chronicle of Bob: The income is joint between my wife and I. The recent amounts are more representative. The 2007 amount was an anomaly - we had a particularly good year.

Michael,
Please don't be offended by my comment on your tax rates and your income for the years that you posted, but...that's peanuts. Not even close to being the level of income that the 2% fall into (unless its at the very very lowest level of that 2%). A million a year? Not bad but not good enough to get your welfare and tax advantages from offsetting losses, reaping long term capital gains, sheltering money and income under intricate accounting practices, etc. Frankly, that income, while I would love to have it, would be laughed at by people paying less percentage in taxes than a busdriver. And...you really need to get a better accountant. Those figures you cited paying based on that income are ridiculously high, unless you are voluntarily making a donation to some sort of "bail out the government" program that we don't know about. You should have had some sort of tax control plan in mind, otherwise the 2% will just declare you "To stupid for that kind of money" and screw you out of it.

Russ, if you're going to make the 1% the subject of your two minutes hate, you should know where the income levels are.

Income of 380k puts you in the top 1%.

http://www.financialsamurai.com/2011/04/12/how-much-money-do-the-top-income-earners-make-percent/

Obama did the same thing with Biden, I guess Obama outsourced his job. http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/08/obama-had-similar-next-president-gaffe-at-biden-rollout-131760.html. Gaffes like that are priceless!!!

He's your President too. He'll still be your President after November too, so you'd better adjust to it.

Lou: "u libs only know how 2 call names and make fun. no real substance."

That statement from the same person who said this shortly before the statement above : "cnn liberals, washington post liberals, ny york times liberals with their heads up obamas u know what get serious"

So Lou wants to people to stop the name calling but he is the one who is doing it.

Not one true leader....LEADERS. Isn't that the way it uses to be? Legislation acted upon by both parties for the good of the country instead of the politics of obstruction.

No hairs, that's the absolute maximum you could have paid with zero deductions. Maybe you should fire your accountant and think about investing in some property. Or a Swiss bank account. I hear those are popular.

Geez - guess I'll hire you next year. Really, though, you sound a bit bitter.

You're adorable.

Lou, that is not what you did. There is a difference between just saying liberal versus ....liberals with their heads up Obama's u know what.

I call it as I see it.

Why even bring it up when Fox News and the conservatives are in bed with Romney. What is your point.

Actually...it does get better. After stating on 60 minutes that he (Ryan) would only release 2 years of his tax returns to the public, he announced today that he would release those returns only as "courtesy" and would like to see the "mandated" issue of making a candidate's tax returns public eliminated from any future campaigns...didn't he know that releasing tax returns was a voluntary gesture?

I guess you forgot about getting Osama, ending the war in Iraq, helping the auto industry, repealed Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

What have the Republicans done since the elected to office in November 2010? They ran on creating jobs and not adding to the deficit. They broke the promise of not passing a bill that would add to the deficit, in December 2010. So that means they must have added a lot of jobs to the economy.

Lou> what did who do? Ryan and Romney didn't create the Obama health care bill...well, actually, come to think of it, Romney did create the model a few years before Obama got elected, and Ryan did publicly state back then what a great idea it was and how it should be a model for the nation...so I guess Romney and Ryan should take credit for that bill, not Obama. Unless it actually does bankrupt us all...in which case, "Damn that Obama!". BUT... if it does work out as Romney claimed it would 5 years go, then Romney and Ryan should get the credit. BUT WAIT! Romney and Ryan promise to repeal "Obamacare" very first day in office. So I guess it's just a moot point after all. That sneaky Obama done stole Romney's thunder and is taking credit for it! No wonder the GOP is so ticked off! Without his model of health insurance, Romney pretty much was left with a big bag of "I got nothin'...no jobs, no tax returns, no company anymore..wanna' watch my dancing horse? I'll let Exxon keep their welfare check!"
OK....to be fair, Romney said on Sunday that he now believes that the ultra rich should pay a higher percentage in taxes and that certain loopholes should be closed. But, and this is so Fellini like and ironic, Ryan's plan would reduce Mitt's personal taxes to less than 1% ! It's like Rowan and Martin are running for President!

Osamas been dead for years. He was a scapegoat. The war was about oil. See the you tube links below. The bailouts were fraud. We fund and pay for everything they do...they are ALL PUBLIC UTILITIES......THE BAILOUTS WERE ANOTHER ROBBERY OF OUR WEALTH......WE THE PEOPLE ARE TOO BIG TO FAIL.....NOT THE GOVT CORP.

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